Dreams of Global Transformation

[dreaming_lucid]

Over the last few years I've had several dreams of tornadoes and earth quakes and the like, which I felt could be a reflection of my own energetic/ life transformations, but also perhaps part of the larger collective unconscious. More recently (a week or more ago) I had a dream of someone showing me a scroll with some writing on it. He was telling me / showing me that the world is entering the end of a particular phase, and was about to be struck by some sort of giant cosmic force, and in my dream this force was this sort of cosmic bat (the animal kind), which was going to be quite destructive. After that,in the dream,I was using my finger to draw protective symbols on the walls of my house with water. Then I was in this exterior setting with a huge wind storm rolling in. Just before it hit, this man from India told me that people don't know how to take care of themselves during a disaster. Then the wind came through and I had to lay flat on the ground and hold onto some rails so as not to be blown away, and I got hit by several flying objects. I've had storm type dreams before, but the wind sensation was far more intense than usual. Anyway,just thought I'd share this dream and see if others have had similar experiences of late.

[Traumwandlerin]

I would still go with the idea of a major change/transformation in your life. Be prepared to get stripped down to the core. Wind is rather fierce if it wants to pull out your core, really rough and chilly, no love and light way. I would take it seriously, if someone told you, that most people aren't able to take care of themselves during a desaster. That's a warning. Lying flat on the ground won't to you much good.

About the great cosmic force, that's just your subconciousness taking the symbols of 2012 to get the message through you.

Don't underestimate wind in the transformation process. It can get so harsh, your flesh will come down and you will be only your bones *figuratively speaing*. It really is a hard and intense transformation. If it gets stronger, really start preparing yourself.

[dreaming_lucid]

I would still go with the idea of a major change/transformation in your life. Be prepared to get stripped down to the core. Wind is rather fierce if it wants to pull out your core, really rough and chilly, no love and light way. I would take it seriously, if someone told you, that most people aren't able to take care of themselves during a desaster. That's a warning. Lying flat on the ground won't to you much good.

About the great cosmic force, that's just your subconciousness taking the symbols of 2012 to get the message through you.

I realize the dream could be a purely a warning of personal initiation / transformation / tribulation, but I also know that, for example, a total of almost 80% of the world's fisheries are fully- to over-exploited, depleted, or in a state of collapse, the ocean is gradually acidifying affecting coral and shellfish, the world population is greater than it has ever been, bats are being wiped out in the US due to white nose syndrome, bee populations have yet to recover from colony collapse etc. There are a lot of systems level changes that are occurring right now, and I do believe this will have major effects on a whole host of levels, including a consciousness level.

[Traumwandlerin]

If you already now all that, than why do you think, your dream is telling you something else? You now all these terrible things, you fear them. Your subconcioussnes uses rather images and stories than facts and explanations. In its words it's war, a great crisis, raining fire, gigantic forces. It's gigantic, you can't do anything about it. Also, a gigantic bat? You already use the example bats being wiped out, I guess you like them. This would be a perfect symbol, wouldn't it?

We all hope for a change in awareness of what we are doing with the earth. Awareness is more likely to happen, if some dramatic events forces one to do so. But there were many dramatic events in the last time, it did nothing but changed the mind for a few days until there was something else on TV. No, I don't think there will be much dramatical change. There hopefully will be a small and slow change in society, when more people get a proper education. When more people develope ecofriendly things and make them usable. When more people tend to other values than the materialistic ones. Those changes are already there, but it's developing for maybe 50 years and it will only slowly grow.

[dreaming_lucid]

If you already now all that, than why do you think, your dream is telling you something else? You now all these terrible things, you fear them. Your subconcioussnes uses rather images and stories than facts and explanations. In its words it's war, a great crisis, raining fire, gigantic forces. It's gigantic, you can't do anything about it. Also, a gigantic bat? You already use the example bats being wiped out, I guess you like them. This would be a perfect symbol, wouldn't it?

Basically I just wanted to start a thread to see if others are having similar dreams as mine about changing consciousness/planetary changes, as I know that the earth is changing rapidly. I hope that makes my initial intention for the discussion clearer.

We all hope for a change in awareness of what we are doing with the earth. Awareness is more likely to happen, if some dramatic events forces one to do so. But there were many dramatic events in the last time, it did nothing but changed the mind for a few days until there was something else on TV. No, I don't think there will be much dramatical change. There hopefully will be a small and slow change in society, when more people get a proper education. When more people develope ecofriendly things and make them usable. When more people tend to other values than the materialistic ones. Those changes are already there, but it's developing for maybe 50 years and it will only slowly grow.

I agree that there hasn't been much change in human activity in spite of all the news. What you call "gradual change" would certainly be easier, and probably is what will occur in reality, but as we have been changing the earth system from a variety of angles in an extremely rapid fashion, it is quite possible that gradual changes will be overwhelmed by the momentum of a systems change. Because of this potential, I thought it would be interesting/ illuminating to see if and how these rapid changes are affecting people's consciousness, which is why I started the thread about these sorts of dreams.

[Traumwandlerin]

Did we ever had a rapid change?

Humanity has changed a few times, but it always took them a few dekades or centuries. It always started with a small group who influenced the people who were cool (like the intellectuels, the high class) and then it went down to the classes (like middle classes and bottom classes). You can actually see all the movements backwards, when you go from top to bottom. The lower classes are still struggling to fight the 50s in their mind, while academic classes already fight the next thing.

But I don't know, maybe there was a rapid change somewhere?

[luna22]

There's also thousands of documented cases of people all over the world dreaming about a natural disaster before or during the event. I think generally these people are some of those who are already more aware than those who are still stuck in their bubble.

[dreaming_lucid]

Did we ever had a rapid change?

Humanity has changed a few times, but it always took them a few dekades or centuries. It always started with a small group who influenced the people who were cool (like the intellectuels, the high class) and then it went down to the classes (like middle classes and bottom classes). You can actually see all the movements backwards, when you go from top to bottom. The lower classes are still struggling to fight the 50s in their mind, while academic classes already fight the next thing.

But I don't know, maybe there was a rapid change somewhere?

Some of the examples that come to mind for me are the labor struggles, women's suffrage movement, and civil rights movement in the US which came about from grass roots agitation. But you're right, the top down has a lot of influence, but since the upper class is often a small powerful group, their influence doesn't always represent the interests of the people at large.

[dreaming_lucid]

There's also thousands of documented cases of people all over the world dreaming about a natural disaster before or during the event. I think generally these people are some of those who are already more aware than those who are still stuck in their bubble.

Do you happen to know of any instances when this happened? I would love to know more about specific cases, if you can think of any.

[luna22]

There's also thousands of documented cases of people all over the world dreaming about a natural disaster before or during the event. I think generally these people are some of those who are already more aware than those who are still stuck in their bubble.

Do you happen to know of any instances when this happened? I would love to know more about specific cases, if you can think of any.

I actually saw a documentary on this on my local cable station, but can't for the life of me remember the name of it- I'll watch for it and also online. But they specifically had high numbers for the 2004 Sri Lankan tsunami and earthquake. They also mentioned the Swedish Global Oneness Project...

I'll definitely look into the name of this documentary- it was really good!