I've been gone all night and not one bloody post...from anyone...about anything????
aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrghgghhhhhhhhh
U'V got to be kidding me....
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I have to correct you there amunptah...there have been LOADS of posts.
Presuming that is that when you say you've been gone ALL night you don't just mean for 4 or 5 hours.
One of the new posts that pops straight into my mind is the one made by Eretik about ouija boards (over in divination section).
That should be something for you to get your teeth into.
Presuming that is that when you say you've been gone ALL night you don't just mean for 4 or 5 hours.
One of the new posts that pops straight into my mind is the one made by Eretik about ouija boards (over in divination section).
That should be something for you to get your teeth into.
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Yes, it would be a great comfort.
However, as you point out, living in the same city and holding similar views is just no guarantee that people will get on with you. There have been so many times when I have been going insane, because even though I'm a complete noob, then I cannot just accept what people tell me. "Why is that?" "How do you know?" "But have you ever tried...?" "What is your source?"
So, I make do with online communities, and pray for the day I'm "ready to receive the Sacred Knowledge"
*g*
However, as you point out, living in the same city and holding similar views is just no guarantee that people will get on with you. There have been so many times when I have been going insane, because even though I'm a complete noob, then I cannot just accept what people tell me. "Why is that?" "How do you know?" "But have you ever tried...?" "What is your source?"
So, I make do with online communities, and pray for the day I'm "ready to receive the Sacred Knowledge"
*g*
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amunptah777
Hey g,
Not that I want to dis your thing, but I'll return the favor by asking you "what do you mean?" by "sacred knowledge.?
And "what makes you think?" you're not "ready" to have it?
I ask, not from spite or anything, but my theory is, when I hear someone saying something like that...it usually means they believe they are less-than in some way and have been promised by some quack-book or hierarchical crazy person that they'll "be the chosen one" or some other damn thing that usually leaves them feeling abused, cheated and otherwise lied to.
Thet
Not that I want to dis your thing, but I'll return the favor by asking you "what do you mean?" by "sacred knowledge.?
And "what makes you think?" you're not "ready" to have it?
I ask, not from spite or anything, but my theory is, when I hear someone saying something like that...it usually means they believe they are less-than in some way and have been promised by some quack-book or hierarchical crazy person that they'll "be the chosen one" or some other damn thing that usually leaves them feeling abused, cheated and otherwise lied to.
Thet
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Well, actually, those were more or less the words I got stuck with at the same time as I got shoved out of the coven that I was a part of.Hey g,
Not that I want to dis your thing, but I'll return the favor by asking you "what do you mean?" by "sacred knowledge.?
And "what makes you think?" you're not "ready" to have it?
I ask, not from spite or anything, but my theory is, when I hear someone saying something like that...it usually means they believe they are less-than in some way and have been promised by some quack-book or hierarchical crazy person that they'll "be the chosen one" or some other damn thing that usually leaves them feeling abused, cheated and otherwise lied to.
Thet
I took offense at the time, but I hold no grudges now. They were nice people, I miss being part of that community and in all fairness they were and are right. Magically speaking, I'm happily sitting on the fence, and I know as much. There's a reason for that though, mostly that my mom's crazy as a cuckoo and I'm terrified that what I experience are not so much magical events as they are hallucinations that need medical attention (and this is all without the illegal stuff folks - don't even wanna go there yet).
There, now you know. Right - is there some sort of board mad-person rank? *looks around for promotion ...*
Cheers
A
There, now you know. Right - is there some sort of board mad-person rank? *looks around for promotion ...*
Em, if there was you'd be quite far down the queue.There'd be a waiting list.Not that I think any of us are 'mad' or 'mental' or 'damaged'.Most magickal practitioners or unorthodox thinkers,individualists and otherwise mystical and/or witchy types,are thought odd,deluded,strange,mad,or otherwise 'lacking mental faculties' by the normal,mundane,orthodox folk.I mean come on,what sane person would be like us? Rofl.
Seriously,my mother suffered serious depression and my sister is schizophrenic.I,like my mother am porphyritic. I avoid daylight,I'm photosensitive,[ good night vision though] anaemic[so sensitive to subtle shifts in the electromagnetic fields] and have bouts of rage due to over production of adrenalin,followed by acute neuropathic pain [in my major nerve complexes: benefit : transendance and endurance: raw power] I seem mad at times but I can sit outside in trance ALL night and not notice,cold or wind in this state.In the past this condition was linked with vampirism and shapeshifting,sufferers ended up in institutions,often.
I learned to embrace my difference,a benefit is the trance states, I can slip into at will.I am liminal,so, the boundaries between perception and reality are easier to move through,when you are sensitive to the subtle shifts/ nuances of your body/mind.
Enough on me.I'm pointing out that you need not fear anything but fear itself:
" Knowing is not enough : we must apply.
Willing is not enough: we must do."
Bruce Lee.
Don't let doubt rule you ,or others tell you ,that you are not ready: only you can know that for sure.
Em, if there was you'd be quite far down the queue.There'd be a waiting list.Not that I think any of us are 'mad' or 'mental' or 'damaged'.Most magickal practitioners or unorthodox thinkers,individualists and otherwise mystical and/or witchy types,are thought odd,deluded,strange,mad,or otherwise 'lacking mental faculties' by the normal,mundane,orthodox folk.I mean come on,what sane person would be like us? Rofl.
Seriously,my mother suffered serious depression and my sister is schizophrenic.I,like my mother am porphyritic. I avoid daylight,I'm photosensitive,[ good night vision though] anaemic[so sensitive to subtle shifts in the electromagnetic fields] and have bouts of rage due to over production of adrenalin,followed by acute neuropathic pain [in my major nerve complexes: benefit : transendance and endurance: raw power] I seem mad at times but I can sit outside in trance ALL night and not notice,cold or wind in this state.In the past this condition was linked with vampirism and shapeshifting,sufferers ended up in institutions,often.
I learned to embrace my difference,a benefit is the trance states, I can slip into at will.I am liminal,so, the boundaries between perception and reality are easier to move through,when you are sensitive to the subtle shifts/ nuances of your body/mind.
Enough on me.I'm pointing out that you need not fear anything but fear itself:
" Knowing is not enough : we must apply.
Willing is not enough: we must do."
Bruce Lee.
Don't let doubt rule you ,or others tell you ,that you are not ready: only you can know that for sure.
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lol, that's a good one, thanks.
Still, when you think that your country is being infiltrated by a secret organization, and base your evidence on tourists who seem overly interested in the landscape, and a childhood friend who suddenly got into touch with you after many many years, then I think insanity becomes a very one trick pony as well.
Worst part I guess is that there's always a million to one chance she might be right, and you have to give her that one, unless you can definitively argue the point ("No mom, I'm fairly certain my boyfriend isn't in jail, he's right here next to me").
So, where do you draw the line?
Still, Eretik, I think you are spot on with the fear. Her whole outlook on the world is coloured by the fear that people are out to harm her, and my whole outlook is coloured by the fear that I'll end up like her.
Fear though is a tricky customer.
You see, a friend of mine stepped off a building because he knew how to fly. Only, I guess he forgot somewhere on the way down, because he never got up again. So, how to abandon enough fear to do, but not so much that you end up harming yourself (and others)?
Bah, sorry for that incoherent post,
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Still, when you think that your country is being infiltrated by a secret organization, and base your evidence on tourists who seem overly interested in the landscape, and a childhood friend who suddenly got into touch with you after many many years, then I think insanity becomes a very one trick pony as well.
Worst part I guess is that there's always a million to one chance she might be right, and you have to give her that one, unless you can definitively argue the point ("No mom, I'm fairly certain my boyfriend isn't in jail, he's right here next to me").
So, where do you draw the line?
Still, Eretik, I think you are spot on with the fear. Her whole outlook on the world is coloured by the fear that people are out to harm her, and my whole outlook is coloured by the fear that I'll end up like her.
Fear though is a tricky customer.
You see, a friend of mine stepped off a building because he knew how to fly. Only, I guess he forgot somewhere on the way down, because he never got up again. So, how to abandon enough fear to do, but not so much that you end up harming yourself (and others)?
Bah, sorry for that incoherent post,
A
You know,ATraveller,if you were to talk with some occultist/New agers, you'd find that your mum sounds very lucid and reasonable by comparison.[I feared becoming my mother too.But,I know now,I am not she.] Illuminati,Freemasons,Zionist plots to run the world,Lizard aliens in human skin.etc.ad nauseam.... [our Royal Family are these - in some quarters! ] Fear can be a useful reflex,it can keep us from peril, but it can also limit our boundaries,restrict our experience.It's harnessing the fear that matters.Know thyself,know thy limits - then challenge them,a bit at a time.The bravest folk are often scared,but they 'do it anyway'.....Bob Marley quote time.lol
Redemption song "...my fear is my only courage..."
Redemption song "...my fear is my only courage..."
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