Postby Velusia » Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:19 am
The story of Adam and Eve is a story of creationism.
First of all, not everyone believes in Adam and Eve. There are many religions around the world that do not follow this creationism story. For instance let's just look at popular science, Darwinism. It's a contraversial topic but almost every school in the country teaches some form of evolution theory.
And if you think about the story of Adam and Eve (people who believe in this story please forgive me, I'm trying to make a point not bash your beliefs) all of creation was stemmed from two people? This automatically means that you and I are a product of incest. The bible states: Adam and Eve had Cain and Able and then went on to have other children. Does that mean that at one point Cain and or Able had to procreate with their mother and or sisters in order to create more children? And would Cain and Able have to procreate with their own children to create more children?
Yes, it is true that it biologically takes a man and a woman to create a child. However, just because biologically this is so, does it mean that two people of the same sex cannot rear a child? What are your thoughts about single parents? I am not with my son's father, does that mean I shouldn't be raising him? Would you rather a child sit in an orphanage/group home/state run facility than go to a home where two people of the same sex promise to love him/her, clothe him/her, teach him/her, take him/her to the park, share love and life with him/her etc?
Does it come down to thinking that two women for instance (since I'm female) cannot do everything a man and a woman can do? I'm a woman, I have a Bachelors of Engineering, I played rugby in college, I can fish and bait my own hook, I can change my own oil, tires, starter, I can build a computer from ground up, I grew up working on a farm, in my rugby days I could bench just as much as some of the male track stars sitting next to me ----- now for my feminine traits ------ I own about 100 pairs of shoes, I'm six months pregnant, when my son falls I cuddle him and make up ridiculous boo boo rhymes, no one's ever complained about my cooking, I wear makeup and do my hair everyday, my warddrobe consists of skirts and blouses mostly... etc. What's to say that myself and another woman couldn't raise my son and this new baby to come just as well as we would if it was my husband and I?
As for the topic of it being difficult to raise children ... oh hell yes. My son is two years old, his birthday was at the beginning of the month. Right now, his only response to just about anything is NO! ... oh wait sometimes it's.. NONONONONONONONONOO! And you know what? He's two, I can't stop him because he doesn't mentally have the comprehension to understand that we don't say no to everything. I can tell him to say yes and he says yes. Children do all sorts of crazy and funny things and at certain ages you can't punish them for what we would perceive as ill behavior because the comprehension just isn't there.
If he hits, bites, spits, those types of behaviors you can attempt to control but let me tell you, my son thinks punishment is a joke. He was playing with my best friend's son (also the same age) and smacked him over the head with a soda bottle. He got a 5 minute time out. He cried, he was very upset, you would think after standing in the corner for 5 minutes he would come out and find something else to do. Oh no, he came back, went into the trash can, got the soda bottle and bonked his friend over the head again. This time he got another 5 minutes. We rinsed and repeated this action about 2 times more before he just wasn't allowed to play anymore.
Do you know how utterly frustrating that is as a parent? That is just one of the many many many reasons child rearing is difficult. However, why am I his biological mother, more entitled to this frustrating experience than anyone else? Just because I "made" him, doesn't mean that if something were to happen to me there aren't other capable adults who could raise him properly.
What she says is true, but about the marriage/child thing Hallowhim, many of us (guys usually) want a long-term relationship without a screaming poop factory, although my thoughts have changed a bit I kinda want a child but kinda not...Therefore, I do have lesbian friends who wanted a baby and want a donor (someone they know, btw ANNOUNCEMENT) my best lesbian friend asked me to do it and I was hesitant at first so she then chose the guy I have a huge crush on but he was hesitant as well...so we decided to both donate mixed it (she was ok with that) so that neither of us would know who the REAL father was so I kinda has a beh beh on da way 
...but it's living with her lol b/c neither of us were ready for a child...so yeah haha little bit off subject but that (donation) is just one of many options we have as GLBT as far as marriage/children goes
