19 and done nothing with my life :/

[Sastual Auxels]

What and provide for those who are completely biased toward who they kill purely because the big man says so? There is no way I'd defend the military or navy, I don't care what country I'm from there is always someone from my country who doesn't deserve to be defended. Hell the way I see it, we send heaps of men to their deaths to fight the bad guy when we all have a bad guy living amoungst us? We send them over to kill the good guy of the people we don't understand and misjudge, its unjust. There are women and children and good people being killed all because we see the bad people amoungst them and say "yup. they are all skum" we may aswell turn the gun around and shoot ourselves, each society has the bad, we of all people have the bad, we have rapists and pedos and worst of all people who believe we are better than anyone else because of colour, or race, or religion or whatever. FIRST we attack our own land, thats what I say, fix what we are doing wrong here before we judge and attack somewhere else!

[Sastual Auxels]

Nah the army isn't for me, there are people to fight that are worse than any terrorist and they live amongst us so it'd be hypocritical to fight against a "possible" terrorist when there are those in our own society doing way more damage.

[luckimmortal]

the reason i said wait.is because i hadnt done anything with my life @ 19 either. you can say "wait" or fast forward six more year. THEN post this thread, but post it in the suicid thread. THEN you'd be in my shoes. which btw if I were you id consider yourself lucky becasue if posted some thread like this, i wouldnt get 2 pages of replies, let alone 2 replies... did you do a spell to get people to reply? wtf?

[Melindrose]

What and provide for those who are completely biased toward who they kill purely because the big man says so?

I never met a single person who was biased because "The big man says so," I served 5 years in the NAVY, I have met people from the ARMY, Marines, and Air force; and you know what? Not a single one hated, or thought that every single middle eastern looking person was out to get them, only the ones shooting at them.

I don't care what country I'm from there is always someone from my country who doesn't deserve to be defended.

So who decides who should be defended then, is it you; what is the deciding factor in who deserves to be defended? The people who founded the US took and said, all people have the right to live as they choose, we developed laws to help guide peoples morals because they realized that while an person is smart people are dumb.

. There are women and children and good people being killed all because we see the bad people amongst them and say "yup. they are all scum" we may as well turn the gun around and shoot ourselves

Most of the women and children being killed are by people who are killing us. If any member of the military kills a non combative civilian, they get put in jail, striped of rank, docked pay, and possibly dis-honorably discharged; which means most places will never hire them, they can't work for any one who has or wants to have a government contract. We have killed innocent civilians in the past but now you'd be better off killing your self than an civilian.

Hell the way I see it, we send heaps of men to their deaths to fight the bad guy when we all have a bad guy living amongst us? each society has the bad, we of all people have the bad, we have rapists and pedos and worst of all people who believe we are better than anyone else because of color, or race, or religion or whatever. FIRST we attack our own land, that's what I say, fix what we are doing wrong here before we judge and attack somewhere else!

Ok, yes we do have those problems, what would you do then, kill them all, and let what powers that be sort them out? The problem with that is you are then seen as a monster. We are human and prone to screw up, if every body was "a good little person" life would be very boring and some one would crack and kill us all. Yes rape, and pedophilia is wrong, but quite a few of them are mentally ill, not all but some. I live in a truly blessed country to not have had an outright actual war on it's land since the civil war era; and I'm sorry but if some one attacks this country intending to kill thousands - millions at once that organization needs to be dealt with. "I swear to uphold the constitution of the United States of America, and to defend it's shores from threats both foreign and domestic" that is a quote from the oath of enlistment; if you are a rapist or a pedo you don't last long with the military. Heck if some people in find out that you are, kiss your ass good by.
We don't have a perfect country but at least we don't have people telling us: you have to be this religion, you must be hetero sexual, you must serve in the military, or you die. I may not agree with what the President, or Congress say has to be done, but damn if I won't support the men and women who chose to fight so others can be free to bitch. And it was merely a suggestion. You are 19, if you feel like nothing is happening in your life, go to college and work your ass off.

[Sastual Auxels]

I don't think the navy or military is right for me

[_Kaimira_]

hi sast,

i think it's time to goto a hospital where they care for your depression. depression is something not to be fooled around with. go to the hospital emgeracy and tell them your gonna kill your self. then they will take care of you. that's what i had to do to get help, they found out that i am bipolar type 2, type 2 is really bad then type 1.

hugs

[Melindrose]

I don't think the navy or military is right for me

That's fine, it's just what you said sounded very biased. Yes there are people in who are judgmental, but then they are everywhere.

[TornUpReaper]

So... working in the services isn't the right option, i still say you need to find yourself a job and that isn't going to happen overnight. Give it a few weeks. Also, what kinds of things did you put in your application? Have you done any volunteer work for anything? I know that back in my high school it was required to do community service and that always looks good on an application. Think about typing up a formal resume and adding a section of stuff you have done or accomplished, like community service, and if you haven't done any then research some that you can get into. It will make you feel good to be helping people, and maybe they can help you figure things out in life.

[Sastual Auxels]

hey I only just realised that there was a second page and my messages werent being deleted when i sent them haha.
Ok I've gone and seen help for depression but nothing can really help me even after a full year of medication etc it done nothing (well it done a lil I'm not suicidal anymore I figure theres no point since we all have our time to die anyway so why be in any rush)
I have a skitzo uncle who R worded a woman and if I was able to I would kill him myself but I can't bring myself to do it, so if that answers your question about what we should do kill em? well yes we should and just because your mentally unstable doesn't give any excuse, I'd kill any man trying to do that if I could find the strength in me to kill, I've wanted to so bad like when I fought off a guy attempting to do it to a stranger, that was a time I wish I had it in me to take someones life but even then I still couldn't, I fought him off but that wasn't enough in my eyes and never will be. The military, yes not all are bad and some have good reasons but there are those in the military who just shoot first and ask questions later let alone the reasons for the wars to begin with, look at Egypt for example, if the people wanted to be freed they would themselves, the US only went in for their oil and don't want to pull out because they are too far into it and have made too many promises and WE are no better (we being Aus) we followed you in? It's countries getting involved where they shouldn't that will send us into WW3 and destroy more of the precious land and earth we have left.
And yes, we DO have people saying you have to be THIS religion and what sexual preference its only recently that there is more freedom, over here there is and what about parts of Texas that are anti-gay and full-christianity? So I know there are still forced judgment and punishment/ bullying toward those of a religion and sexual preference.

As for who says who needs defending, its usually the super power countries that attack first! Australia doesn't attack first but we damn well suck up the ass of those who do! And the super powers only attack if its for a good reason aswell, like Australia didn't defend East Timor when the Indonesian's invaded because we had too much money coming in from Indonesia and US only invaded Iraq (btw notice the invaded part? who attacked first? The US, yeah Bin Ladin crashed the planes but YOU trained him with your... wait for it... MILITARY).

No good comes from war, it doesn't decided who wins only who is left and who is left is usually the ones with the most meat-bags to send in with guns, thats what soldiers are, they don't care who you are they will send you in to fight the other guy across from you who is fighting for the same thing as you, if it weren't for the gun the person you are trying to kill could very well be your friend! As I mentioned, its evident that the people could have freed themselves there was only oil there to grab and after the oil was out of the picture it changed from an invasion to a "we need to help them" operation because the pride of the US was at stake if you had left just like it was the pride of AUS when we followed you in and why we stayed.

The only questions answered by the answer military are the ones related to money.

Why do you defend your country? It's just a word connected to a place, connected to a mass of people who you don't even know deserve to be defended and defended against someone who could have been your friend if met in another situation.
Thanks for the offer though but there is no way the military is a good thing.

On the other note though, I don't honestly see me recovering I just have to deal with depression and life and hating everything until my time comes I guess now that suicide isn't an option (it shouldn't be for anyone especially the hurt it causes and as I said, there isn't any rush you will get to that outcome in the end anyway whether you want it or not I mean no point trying to rush)

[Melindrose]

yes but fortunately we also have the ability to tell them to F.O. and not have the government go you cant do that.

[Sastual Auxels]

Yeah we definitely have more freedom over here, you actually have more over in the US I mean if we don't vote over here we get a fine and if we don't pay it or can't pay it then we go to jail? So we have a freedom to be forced to vote haha but it's not like we are forced into every decision like in the middle-eastern dictatorships so I can't complain there.

[Charlatan]

You want to do something with your life? There is this thing called out reach, where people look for others to work for them, or raise awareness. Pick up a papre and look through the classifieds, or, even a job mail. If you t to do something then do something about it.

[Luna Lisa]

Charlatan not to be rude but members here are suppose to be nice and to respect people. Maybe some new members like to learn and want adivce from other people. And picking up a pice of paper and getting a job has nothing to do with this post. It's like I said the new members want advice. Not to be told what to do. I'm not trying to be mean. But people here are too help each other not to be told to get a job.

[Melindrose]

Yeah we definitely have more freedom over here, you actually have more over in the US I mean if we don't vote over here we get a fine and if we don't pay it or can't pay it then we go to jail? So we have a freedom to be forced to vote haha but it's not like we are forced into every decision like in the middle-eastern dictatorships so I can't complain there.

If you don't mind me asking where are you located?

[TornUpReaper]

Charlatan not to be rude but members here are suppose to be nice and to respect people. Maybe some new members like to learn and want adivce from other people. And picking up a pice of paper and getting a job has nothing to do with this post. It's like I said the new members want advice. Not to be told what to do. I'm not trying to be mean. But people here are too help each other not to be told to get a job.

Luna, I don't think Charlatan was trying to be mean, just brutally honest. More in the fashion of a "wake up call" I suppose.