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Postby [cherokeewind] » Thu Apr 24, 2008 8:48 pm

We also have what's called a brown recluse spider....nasty bite. Can kill a small child. On average one bite will cause a fist sized ball of flesh to desolve.

I was reading that the wolf spiders venom has no antidote and can stay in your system for years, continuing to Digest your living flesh.
Spiders get shipped sometimes out of their geographical range...like Black Widows showing up in New York. But check out this link...the text in bold quotation marks is from the article.

http://dermatology.cdlib.org/DOJvol5num ... cluse.html

"Two other spiders that have the potential to produce necrotizing wounds, though much less well-documented than the brown recluse, are the hobo spider and the yellow sac spider. The hobo spider (Tegenaria agrestis) may be found in the Pacific Northwest as far east as Montana and south into Oregon and Utah. The two yellow sac species (Cheiracanthium spp.) are found all over the United States, but probably only produce minor necrotic wounds."


You are well out of range of where Brown Recluses live. You could get some by shipping or cars traveling. What is happening...the Hobo spider which is our nickname for the Funnel-web in the US, is causing bites with symthoms identical to the Brown Recluse. I've read that the range of Hobo spiders is all the way into Canada now. Maybe the Brown Recluse is farther North too? But both cause a wound and infection, skin all around turns yellow, rots away. My Mom had that also. Catching the spider is the only way to know which one it was. Or maybe they are territorial...on our property you find hundrens of Funnel-webs but no Brown Recluses. I have never found even one Brown Recluse spider in my town.
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Postby watershield » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:27 pm

Victoria and the southern tip of Vancouver Island is a climate all to it's own. It's warm enough here we have roses in the winter months.

We have Kiwi fruit growing in the garden.

So trap doors, recluse, etc are common
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Postby oracle's child » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:43 pm

about 9 years ago i moved into a new place and for some reason while i was at the bathroom sink, looked up in the corner near the ceiling light and saw a larger spider that just had babies. my ceiling was crawling with babies no bigger than, well they were moving pin dots that's all i can say. anyway one of the tiny things came down in front of my face on it's little thread and i'm thinking, how tiny-you could barely see it unless you looked in the light a certain way. i watched it land on my hand which was resting on the sink and all of a sudden it felt as if someone had put out a lit cigarette on my hand. the pain was awful! i immediately killed it and thought if the pin-dot felt like that, what about the mother? i kept an eye on my hand for awhile and there was no swelling but boy did it hurt for a few days. don't know what kind it was. i got a broom and mashed the rest i could find including the big one.

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Postby SugarCharmz » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:17 am

Wow, i was dumb enough to think that the Widows and the Recluses were the only dangerous spiders out there!

.... Well now I'm beginning to think twice about my peace with spiders, lol.
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Postby Addicus » Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:53 am

thought this might be something nifty to add to the conversation of spiders...
The Goliath Bird-eating Spider

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http://www.extremescience.com/BiggestSpider.htm

http://www.worsleyschool.net/science/fi ... pider.html
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Postby oracle's child » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:08 am

imagine something like that leaping on you when you walked under a doorway!lol! that's enough spiders for me.

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Postby Rob899 » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:28 am

eeeeeeeeeeeeek ;S

Grossssss XD

Im so greatful i live in norway :D We dont have any poisionous creatures, And the spiders we have, Are bearly bigger than flies xD Yet, Im scared of them >.<
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Postby Eireayne » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:14 pm

hate them. Found lone last summer chillin on the shower curtain AFTER I got in. Got back out, found a shoe, and killed that thing. Thinking of it still gives me the creepies. Ever see arachnaphobia? Ruined me for LIFE! I know spiders have the whole "great weaver" thing going for them in spider lore, but I kill them when I see them. The baby sack thing happened to may parents right above the door to their bedroom. I don't want them living in my house, or near me. Won't kill them in the forest (that's their house)... but.... I have a serious phobia. Not cool at all!!!!

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Postby watershield » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:35 pm

Maybe it's us Oregonians, (I was born in Salem) I haven't seen the movie but I did see the adverts.......could not get me in there for love nor money!
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Postby [cherokeewind] » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:39 pm

thought this might be something nifty to add to the conversation of spiders...
The Goliath Bird-eating Spider

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http://www.extremescience.com/BiggestSpider.htm

http://www.worsleyschool.net/science/fi ... pider.html
I clicked on the link...it is big enough to be a pet, 12 inch leg span. :D
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Postby [cherokeewind] » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:42 pm

about 9 years ago i moved into a new place and for some reason while i was at the bathroom sink, looked up in the corner near the ceiling light and saw a larger spider that just had babies. my ceiling was crawling with babies no bigger than, well they were moving pin dots that's all i can say. anyway one of the tiny things came down in front of my face on it's little thread and i'm thinking, how tiny-you could barely see it unless you looked in the light a certain way. i watched it land on my hand which was resting on the sink and all of a sudden it felt as if someone had put out a lit cigarette on my hand. the pain was awful! i immediately killed it and thought if the pin-dot felt like that, what about the mother? i kept an eye on my hand for awhile and there was no swelling but boy did it hurt for a few days. don't know what kind it was. i got a broom and mashed the rest i could find including the big one.
How big is larger? Wolf spiders carry their young on the abdomen, after carrying the egg sac around.
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Postby [cherokeewind] » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:50 pm

Victoria and the southern tip of Vancouver Island is a climate all to it's own. It's warm enough here we have roses in the winter months.

We have Kiwi fruit growing in the garden.

So trap doors, recluse, etc are common

Warmer temperatures, yes that is what Brown Recluses like...people don't realize how far North some species can be found now.
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Postby oracle's child » Fri Apr 25, 2008 10:50 pm

oh my goodness Cherokee, i'm so stupid! i think i just meant large not larger spider. lol i was going on two hours sleep this morning. all i can remember is it had a small body and the legs were real long (duh), well i mean, mmmm that it definitely wasn't a daddy long legs. it was a long time ago.

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Postby SeekerGray » Fri Apr 25, 2008 11:19 pm

thought this might be something nifty to add to the conversation of spiders...
The Goliath Bird-eating Spider

Image
http://www.extremescience.com/BiggestSpider.htm

http://www.worsleyschool.net/science/fi ... pider.html
When I saw that, I thought of ramen noodles, and how I will never eat them without crunching the packet before cooking again.

:cry:

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Postby Eartheartdragonfly » Mon May 05, 2008 12:53 am

E. B. White:
You have been my friend. That in itself is a tremendous thing. I wove my webs for you because I liked you. After all, what's a life, anyway? We're born, we live a little while, we die. A spider's life can't help being something of a mess, with all this trapping and eating flies. By helping you, perhaps I was trying to lift up my life a trifle. Heaven knows anyone's life can stand a little of that.


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