Levitation

[Sapphire]

How do you do it??

[shadowx]

You dont. It is not possible via magickal means.

Anyone that tells you they can do it is lying or deluded

Otherwise if levitation was possible and easy wouldnt everyone in the world do it? If i could levitate the first thing i would do is fly over to MIT in america and tell them to setup a test, any test they wanted and i would levitate infront of cameras, crowds and instruments so it was proven. i would then teach everyone else and the whole world would levitate and that would be that.

Bottom line is you cant do it.

[Sapphire]

well that makes a lot of sense now. thank you! smiley08_yin_yang

[ImperfectAngel]

now i think ts plausible jsut because people thinks its folly dosnt mean it is i think tibetan monks claim to do it but they dont release their secrets. if you can manipulate energy then couldnt you just manipulate the energy around your self? im sure it would take years and years and years of practice and mediation. idk though hard to say might be true might not be just becaues you ahve never seen it or no one else in the world has done it dont mean its impossible just very improbable. i would try but Alas i am far too lazy and would lose interest in such pursuits plus if it didnt work i might commit suicide afterrealising i wasted my entire life on a lie LOL

I would say the same...I wouldn't say it isn't possible......ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!

[shadowx]

I typed out an epic reply the other day and my net connection screwed up... however...

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!

NO IT FKING WELL ISNT!

I have a sweet wrapper here... turn it into a solar system comparable in size to our own and capable of supporting life on all 8 planets orbiting the star.

Do it. Now, go on... you have my permission... oh wait... you cant can you? Nope.

Hence you are wrong.

Now, on the matter of levitation....

There are two ways i am going to talk about, one is to counteract the force of gravity and one is to remove it.

To counteract gravity you need to either use another force to hold you up, or repel the gravitation force, or to expel matter downwards to push you upwards. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Now... how are you going to expel that matter? You could use laxatives but that wont work... so let's assume you use ionisation. You create and control enough electricity, several thousand volts, around your feet. This ionises the air making it attracted to the electrical charge in your feet, the air rushes past and goes downwards pushing you upwards...only it isnt possible.... even if you could control that amount of voltage, which you cant, the force would just push you over and you would spin and flip with no control.

And you cant block or "disable" gravity, so i concur you cant do it.

[Fie]

Look up Johan Lorbeer on youtube I think that about as close as you can get to levitation. If it could be done easily, then we could solve the problem of using too much oil in our cars and killing the environment, unfortunately I don't personally believe it can happen.

[shadowx]

you would simply would have to manipulate the energy around you

But what does the energy *do*?

That is like saying "i need to travel back in time, i will just build a time machine!" you need to be able to describe what the time machine does and how it does it to be able to travel in time.

[JBRaven]

Shadow, I like to think myself as a semi resonable person. But I know levitation exsist. I think is is more of a build up of energy and I, in no way, think some one can contorl it. I have seen it,briefly, when a friend and I were releasing a shit ton of built up energies.

I mean there is a probability for anything, no matter if it is .04 to trillions, there is still a chance. The existance of Earth is improbable as hell yet Earth continues.

I typed out an epic reply the other day and my net connection screwed up... however...

ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!!!

NO IT FKING WELL ISNT!

I have a sweet wrapper here... turn it into a solar system comparable in size to our own and capable of supporting life on all 8 planets orbiting the star.

Do it. Now, go on... you have my permission... oh wait... you cant can you? Nope.

Hence you are wrong.
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Just becaue I have not done it yet does not mean I never will.

That is like saying "i need to travel back in time, i will just build a time machine!" you need to be able to describe what the time machine does and how it does it to be able to travel in time.

I would also like a blueprint to all things we do not understand. Just because I can't explain something it does not mean that it does not exist. Did rain not fall when people thought it was the Gods bringing life to the crops?

[Greek_Male_Witch]

Shadowx DO NOT receive this as an attack, but your own mind restriction is the reason your magic reaches a limit, makes sense? I mean if you try to apply physical laws to magick then nothing is possible, Magick is not counted, or measured or can be trapped anywhere, magick is free, and anything is possible if you believe it, you are not believe it, then its not, but don't say to others they are fools believing it, if Magick happens everything happens (stupid phrase? maybe but who can proove me wrong?)

[shadowx]

there is a probability for anything

Again, not true. One proton.... tell me how it can expand and duplicate itself to form enough protons to form the mass of the universe. Is it possible? Nope, never, ever, no matter what.

Magick is bound by the laws of the universe, everything within the universe is bound by the laws of physics.

[shadowx]

Ah the many worlds hypothesis, one i myself subscribe to which explains the after life and planes of existence within a scientific context. In this universe levitation is not possible according to the laws of physics here.

[WitchyLady506]

But we're actually starting to understand that physics as we understand them are about like people understanding the universe a few hundred years ago. Right now physics says no, and every day we're finding out that calculations are off, or something that completely goes against what we said was absolute truth. So really, there's nothing that is absolute truth. It's all blurry and there's always something that contradicts that one law we tried to put in place.

Here's an interesting article: http://www.cracked.com/article_17476_7- ... ysics.html

[JBRaven]

there is a probability for anything

Again, not true. One proton.... tell me how it can expand and duplicate itself to form enough protons to form the mass of the universe. Is it possible? Nope, never, ever, no matter what.

Magick is bound by the laws of the universe, everything within the universe is bound by the laws of physics.

Todays theories on matter are tomorrows jokes. At one time a person said the same thing about germs and the world being round. Magic is the future of sciences. Do you not believe that science can be wrong?

[Greek_Male_Witch]

Look Shadowx you know I respect you, and I understand you have your own beliefs as I have mine, but its not rational to try convince us that your beliefs are the real ones, and ours are fake, even if they are fake, let us be in our own "world" whatever you can call it, besides time will tell, if anyone will levitate, then you will be wrong Shadowx, until then, we call this a disagreement

[shadowx]

Actually very few if any ancient peoples believed the earth was flat. It was invented fairly recently in history, only a few centuries ago that idea was invented.

Anyhoo...

Re the article:

none of those violate any known laws of physics. The closest you could argue is the air gel stuff but even that doesnt violate any laws of physics, it is just a very airated substance and since air is an excellent insulator and at atmospheric pressure weighs nothing (relatively) it means a light, heat proof substance, the solid matter is evidently fairly rigid so meh.

The liquid you can breathe is easy, fish do it all the time. All they have done is replaced water with a liquid which contains LOADS of oxygen and since our lungs evolved from gills and still need to be wet to function it makes sense that we can breathe for a time, liquid.

Ferrofluids are easy. Dissolved particles of iron or other magnetic minerals.

Non-Newtonian fluids are easy too, the impacted energy causes the molecular chains to change shape and orientation briefly turning the substance into a hard solid structure thanks to the interlocking chains and molecules. Custard does this, mix up a thick paste of custard and stir it as fast as you can, it goes hard. Pour it gently and it pours like syrup.

Supercooled liquids are the weird things, they flow uphill But even that follows the laws of surface tension or capillary action, i cant remember which.

Science can be and often is wrong, however it is often more correct than religion ever has been. While i admit there are things that spiritualists can teach scientists it remains that magick must follow the laws of physics and while we havent worked those out completely we are fairly good at what we know and we know that the only way levitation is possible is by getting rid of, or actually reversing gravity (which would require an exceptional amount of energy to bend the fabric of space and tine itself, much like if you have a bowling ball in the middle of a taut sheet, it forms a little bowl and "pull" a smaller ball toward it, you need to get enough energy to lift the bowling ball up so that it sits on a little hill and "pushes" the small ball away) that would require an immense amount of energy, probably more than the whole solar system made of TNT.

The other option is to use the "equal and opposite" rule by forcing matter downwards, cant be done with magickal energy im afraid.