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Postby JBRaven » Mon Jul 19, 2010 11:20 am

It sounds logical as you explain it shadow, but I have seen the magical and the unexplainable. If I could tell you the science behind it, I would. We will have to live by our own experiances and just disagree.

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Postby Melindrose » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:21 pm

explain Chris angel

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Postby shadowx » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:32 pm

ah with pleasure :)

A quote from the man himself:
Starting in October 2007 he [Criss Angel] appeared as a judge on Phenomenon, with Uri Geller and in a CNN interview about the show he told Larry King "no one has the ability, that I'm aware of, to do anything supernatural, psychic, talk to the dead. And that was what I said I was going to do with Phenomenon. If somebody goes on that show and claims to have supernatural psychic ability, I'm going to bust [him] live and on television.
Hence he doesnt even believe in the supernatural and yet you suggest him in support of levitation... who next? David Blaine?! There is more...:
Criss Angel, is a Greek-American illusionist, musician, escapologist, and stunt performer
He isnt even remotely accredited with being in any way involved with the supernatural... Please, if you see a stunt show on TV of a man levitating dont believe it... he is a magician, and not the spiritual kind.

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Postby Melindrose » Mon Jul 19, 2010 4:40 pm

ah with pleasure :)

A quote from the man himself:
Starting in October 2007 he [Criss Angel] appeared as a judge on Phenomenon, with Uri Geller and in a CNN interview about the show he told Larry King "no one has the ability, that I'm aware of, to do anything supernatural, psychic, talk to the dead. And that was what I said I was going to do with Phenomenon. If somebody goes on that show and claims to have supernatural psychic ability, I'm going to bust [him] live and on television.
Hence he doesnt even believe in the supernatural and yet you suggest him in support of levitation... who next? David Blaine?! There is more...:
Criss Angel, is a Greek-American illusionist, musician, escapologist, and stunt performer
He isnt even remotely accredited with being in any way involved with the supernatural... Please, if you see a stunt show on TV of a man levitating dont believe it... he is a magician, and not the spiritual kind.

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yet he has not explained how he does the unaided levitations across building roof tops in the middle of nowhere.

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Postby shadowx » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:16 am

Of course he hasnt!!!! Has david blaine explained how he does his stunts? Hell no! Hes a freaking stage magician, if he told everyone how he did his tricks then no-one would watch him. If you cant tell the difference between stage magic and reality then there is nothing more i can say to you that will be of any use. If you actually believe this guy is a spiritual, supernatural magick user then you are an idiot. He said himself that he doesnt believe in anything supernatural. HE DOES NOT BELIEVE IN MAGICK! So how the hell can you possibly think he used magick or witchcraft to levitate?

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Postby JBRaven » Tue Jul 20, 2010 1:48 am

Criss Angel has no "magical" power, he is an illusionist and will admitt it. He would never explain how her levitates because then he would not make money.

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Postby Li Li » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:40 am

one night when i was little, probably about 7/8 i was convinced that i've levitated, probably about 2/3 inches high, nothing impressive lol.

but in seriously, i don't really believe in levitation. i'm more of a "i'll believe it when i see it" type.

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Postby shadowx » Tue Jul 20, 2010 4:05 am

Criss Angel has no "magical" power, he is an illusionist and will admitt it. He would never explain how her levitates because then he would not make money.
For a minute there i though *I* was the insane one, at least we are in it together now :D

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Postby Melindrose » Tue Jul 20, 2010 11:53 am

not saying he's not an illusionist, and with David Blane it depends on the stunt for example when he was buried in a glass coffin he trained him self to use less air. There are some things that are considered mind over matter and levitation could be one of them: i.e. the light as a feather stiff as a board that has hundreds of successful testimonies.

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Postby shadowx » Tue Jul 20, 2010 2:10 pm

Melindrose, when you are able to read what has been written and form a coherent argument for or against it come back to me. Until then i am personally discounting everything you say.

I and other members have confirmed that this guy doesnt even believe in magick or ghosts or witchcraft or whatever, and you continue to suggest him as evidence for levitation. Less strongly but you evidently still stand by what you said despite the fact it has been proven wrong.

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Postby Melindrose » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:08 pm

Melindrose, when you are able to read what has been written and form a coherent argument for or against it come back to me. Until then i am personally discounting everything you say.

I and other members have confirmed that this guy doesnt even believe in magick or ghosts or witchcraft or whatever, and you continue to suggest him as evidence for levitation. Less strongly but you evidently still stand by what you said despite the fact it has been proven wrong.
I was not talking about it from a magical point of view. You don't have to believe in magick, ghosts or anything else to believe that it is possible to levitate. He does believe that anything is possible. I have seen his show and he does that the mind is capable of things inexplicable by current science. Also the last thing I said was think of it as a possible mind over mater thing; then I talked about David Blane. After I rationally explained that people train for things I brought up the stiff as a board light as a feather; which is both a mind over matter exercise and a magical exercise. I don't think I've ever heard of a sleep over with more than 2 girls where they haven't at least talked about doing it. I stopped suggesting that either of them were believers in actual magick, but that doesn't mean that they don't believe in mind over matter which is not strictly a magick system.

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Postby shadowx » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:13 pm

both a mind over matter exercise and a magical exercise
Stiff as a board is purely mental and physical. Not magickal. The body is very strong and is able to do fantastic things purely on a biological level.

You continue to believe that this Criss Angel can truly levitate and you are just plain wrong! He uses wires, mirrors etc... Fool!

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Postby Melindrose » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:17 pm

did I say that no, you are now making assumptions. All I said was he believes in the possibilities of the human mind which makes any thing possible.

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Postby shadowx » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:35 pm

Well you said that he believes in the human mind hence anything is possible hence he levitates for real, no wires, no rockets, just pure mind power, correct?

That is what your post suggests.

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Postby Ravencry » Tue Jul 20, 2010 3:54 pm

I have been backstage on Chris Angels water walking stunt. unfortunately, he is a fake, like all magicians in Las Vegas. Steve Wyrick also. many things are possible, but I do not believe in levitation. I am a firm believer of gravity.


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