overreaction that I wish all animal abusers dead?

[Greek_Male_Witch]

Hi, I can stand a lot of stuff, but what I don't like at all is animal abuser's, any kind of animal, I mean they are helpless creatures with no voice or power over people, they are easy victims, and I think everyone should be sensitive about the matter, anyway, I read an article for Cats suffering at South Caroline due to abuse, its cruel and its annoying for people to NOT doing something, I really want to open all the spellbooks I have and do the strongest hex on them, but then I think about it, and I see I would be no better than them if I hurt them, I want them to pay for their acts, not to be hexed and never getting a lesson, I mean a hex would cause them only harm, the thing is to learn the lesson, so maybe Bastet spell? to ask her to try to do something?

[sshanti]

It is sad that there are such cruel people, and it is normal to feel the way you do. The laws have been made to pretty much claim pets and animals as 'property' instead of members of your family. It has been proven that serial killers started out as animal abusers, and really need to be stopped.
There are groups of people that work to change the laws to protect them, you can sign petitions and do what you can to keep your message a positive one. I agree we cannot tolerate such behavior, I would like to have 10 minutes with them to make them feel like the crap they are.
Remember there are good people out there who do the right thing in caring for their animals, and you are one of them, Thank you.

[Kaimira]

greek,

i only have a few hexes in my spell book but you have to be near them to work. I have a black cat name bast, and i love her to bits, she's pretty smart kitty. It makes me sad that people would do that to a animal. there was abuse case where a kitten was bound by her paws and ducked taped her mouth and nose. same thing happened just a few days ago was puppy that was bound and muzzled by duct tape and in a trash bag. I was so mad, so i took the puppy into my home she's a small little thing. i don't know if i should keep her, i call her molly, bast just hisses at molly. i sat and held her i actually cried.

[RainDownOnMe]

I had a neighbor that all of my other neighbors, myself included, referred to solely as "the cat killer". We had a HUGE problem with stray cats...I'm talking 100-120 or so all in the same block. He moved into a boarding house across the street from me and the cats started disappearing. We first thought that the animal control person was actually doing his job and rounding them all up for homes. Then we started hearing stories, seeing things, and hearing the gut-wrenching sound of cats screaming in pain.

He was drowning them, shooting them in the head with bb guns to tie in trash bags to either suffocate or bleed out, throwing bricks off of the second story porch at the house he was staying to hit them in the head, tossing firecrackers at them, baiting them with poisoned food, catching them and dropping them off of the roof of a two story apartment, and catching them and slicing their necks with a pocket knife.

I called the pound, I called the police, I emailed the ASPCA. NO ONE did a thing to help the poor animals in the neighborhood. I even attempted to catch him in the act on surveillance equipment for the proof the cops swore they needed to do anything.

He even told another neighbor that he was dishonorably discharged from the military...and that if he were ever to kill a human he'd want to bury them alive.

SO, point is, I too felt like this man needed to be eradicated, but I for one wasn't going to do anything that rash. For people that have consciences and a heart, it's only natural to feel intense anger towards those that commit such heinous acts.

(Fortunately the man moved out of my neighborhood and even state. Unfortunately, he is still probably doing the same despicable acts in some other area....just hopefully this time the authorities will do what is necessary to put a stop to it.)

[Greek_Male_Witch]

If not the authorities, the Universe!

[RainDownOnMe]

Hopefully SOMETHING will stop him, that's for sure. I have a two year old son, and after hearing about him talking about wanting to bury someone alive.....I was on high alert until I knew he was completely out of the neighborhood. I had watched enough discovery health, law and order, and read enough research to know that serial killers move up the "food chain" so to speak and first start fantasizing about how to kill their prey. We called so many times on that man that the local police surely think we are nuts. I just couldn't take the screams of pain all the time. It got to the point where I was getting physically ill.

[Kaimira]

this makes me sad, when people do this to animals, specially cats, i always loved cats. that man you spoke up should be locked up. I am shocked this man did this and filled with rage. he should have his throat slashed.

[RainDownOnMe]

It's a very frustrating feeling to have when you do everything you can in your power to try to stop something like that but the authorities are apathetic. I just keep thinking that his time will come and what he has done will come back to him in some way at least.

[Kaimira]

oh i so agree, 3x3 the eye will see, he should be in jail not walking the streets. what if this is a start of a serial killer? that really creeps me out. i heard most serial kills animals and then moves up to humans. i think that's a scary detail.

[Wiccan Z]

Not an over reaction, but probably not to good on your Karma. Though I agree they should be brought to justice. Same with Child molesters and rapists.

[Greek_Male_Witch]

I remember I once had a argue with Shadowx about Karma, he said that those who believe in Karma, they will get their punishment, but those who don't believe in it, they get nothing, no punishment, nothing! I come to agree with shadowx, the only reason this man and every other man/woman who is molesting/raping/killing animals or humans, haven't had something bad happened to him/her is because they don't believe in punishment or Karma. Wiccan Z, I'm not a bad person but if I had this neighbour killing cats, my Karma would be the last I would worry about, because I would be in jail, I can kill people who treat animals that bad, I don't mind if someone doesn't like them, but its another thing to NOT like them, and another thing to kill them because you don't like them, I know a bunch of good people that aren't feeling good with animals, although they don't wish harm on them....

[Kaimira]

i believe in karama i always have even if i am just a pagan.

[WhiteOne]

I also have a huge problem with animal abusers.
I interpret the Wiccan Rede to say that whatever we do onto others will return to us. That being said, would you want a killing hex to be returned onto you? You sound like an ethical person, so I don't want that.
I would suggest a binding spell. I did one once and the person ended up in jail the very next day.
Now, could you handle being bound to not harm animals? I think so. So there wouldn't be any problem with the Rede or Karma. Except for the fact that you are forcing your will onto another person--but if it is to help innocent victims, then I think it is warranted.
Generally a binding spell is done during the time when the moon is becoming darker. I did mine two days before the new moon.
You bind the person or people from doing harm. I personally, wouldn't be against adding that "all harm this individual intends to give to animals should be reflected back to them." Thus, you aren't causing them harm, but they are causing themselves harm. And I would also try to tailor the spell so that the abuser's cover is blown, that what they are doing becomes obvious to those around them, and that they get persecuted by the police for their abuses. Later, if you wanted to, you could do a healing spell or a protection spell for the innocent animals that have been victims of abuse, during the filling time of the moon, or the full moon.
Bravo for your altruism.

[Kaimira]

there's animal abusers all over the world, and so many close to home and they hide like roaches.

[TheArtOfLife]

It really is not fair to hurt animals. Here there is a group that is trying to go into the parliament so they can stop the way animals are being treated when they are waiting to become our meat. chickens in little cages, laying eggs almost every day, pigs that have little space, being fed to become fat, cows.. alright the cows have probably the best life over here, anyway they do because they want to get money, fast, easy and they have to do as the mass expects them to. So pigs with low fat and more meat.
Anyway, I'm trying to become a vegetarian. We eat to many meat and are not really nice to them. You didn't speak about this sort of cruelty, but is a part that has to deal with it as well.