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Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Greek_Male_Witch » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:18 pm

Remember the evil uncle? Well I haven't been writing for him because he doesn't cause any problems, by problems I mean he doesn't provoke fights as he used to, but thats not the point, the point is, I don't like having him in my house, the words he said about me are way too much to forgive, plus he doesn't want forgiveness, he meant what he said, I know he did, and he keeps means those stuffy he said, so thats why I hate him to the guts, the guy spreads misery to those around him, anyway I think I found out what is the problem, and why spells about him leaving my house won't work, I recently found out that magic works better in stuff that happen in random, I mean for example with my uncle, if he was here and didn't knew we want him to leave, the spell would work, but because he knows it, and he doesn't want to leave because he thinks we won if he leaves, thats what is blocking my spells, because lets face it, all the spells you guys gave me was for people that are not aware that are undesirable, he knows it, and he wants to stay, so he puts extra energy so he will stay, and Universe is fair so it accepts his energies as it accepts mine, so what I need is more power? I would design a spell but I can't seem to make those work :(
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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Ula » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:24 pm

If it's your house why is he there? Can't you have him evicted and use the judicial system? I am not being rude I don't understand the situation. If you have someone put out, family or not if they made me that miserable. Just curious.

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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Greek_Male_Witch » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:39 pm

Justice system cannot do anything about, we told him to leave, and he isn't, he says "Make me", I don't know what else to do...
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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Ula » Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:51 pm

I am going to do some research legal and spell wise.

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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Ula » Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:10 pm

This is from the Encyclopedia of 5000 Spells:

Four Thieves Banishing Spell (5)

Used to banish and causes spell’s target to cease harassing you.

1. Sprinkle Four Thieves Vinegar over sea salt. (Can use Kosher salt)
2. Blend Four Thieves Vinegar into the salt, then, once the salt has dried, pour it into a conjure bag and carry until your opportunity arises.
3. When the target of your spell next visits you or is otherwise encountered, sprinkle the salt secretly in their wake as they depart from you.

Four Thieves Vinegar:

1. Use red wine or apple cider vinegar. (A good kind)
2. Peel and crush garlic cloves and add them to vinegar.
3. Choose one of the following to represent each thief: black pepper, whole cayenne or other chili pepper, coriander, lavender, mint, rosemary, rue, sage, thyme or wormwood.
4. Allow to sit for four days shaking once daily.

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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Greek_Male_Witch » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:12 pm

Thanks Ula! :)
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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Packie99 » Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:13 pm

Justice system cannot do anything about, we told him to leave, and he isn't, he says "Make me", I don't know what else to do...

I would make him. Physically throw him out of your house. If you can't, I would find someone who could and was willing to do it. Just my opinion, and I have plenty of experience throwing people out of places they refuse to leave. Sometimes when it comes down to it, you have to put your hands on them for them to realize you're not taking their crap.

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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Greek_Male_Witch » Tue Jun 14, 2011 1:14 am

Packie99 I want to physically throw him out, but my mother thinks he will try to re-enter the house violently, I also have bought baseball bats, I'm eager to use it, but my mother says that the police will arrest me for that! :(
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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Symandinome » Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:17 am

Dear Greek,

I understand your desire to remove him from your house and I understand the spells you have worked thus far did not work for you. You are quite right in your reasoning why your spells didnt work. Sometimes anothers will is sooo strong that it makes it difficult for magick to work. What we must do then is to worker smarter not harder!!! We need to examine the reasons why he doesnt want him to leave. Once that is established there are one of two ways to proceed with it.

A: you can create an opportunity for him that is "too good to pass up" which will make him want to leave on his own. Sometimes you have to do good for something negative to make things go in your favor. Perhaps he isnt financially capable of being on his own in this case magickally create a job opportunity that he would be a fool to refuse. Perhaps it is because he is really just lonely and doesnt want to be alone, maybe he'd rather make everyone around him miserable because he is afriad to be alone, misery loves company. If thats the case the why not masgickally bring a woman or man into his life to occupy his time and fascination. These are just examples, agian you need to objectively figure out what are his reasons for wanting to stay and not leave and work your magick to counter his reasons.

B: This answer is the more complex of the two and honestly I do not think you are at a stage in your development yet where this would be possible but it is worth mentioning to you simply for educational purposes. The person you are trying to get ot leave has not been effected by your spellwork which you yourself have attributed to that persons will to stay being so strong. In this case you can choose to systematically attack this persons spirit and will "block by block" so to speak so that you bring down his wall/will and make him weak enough to be susceptible to your spell. This would require multiple spells and rituals which would be best done using all correspondences to your advantage. You would need to sit and really consider the things that make this individuals will so strong piece by piece and devise a means to attack each separate piece of their being. This is a form of psychic or magickal warfare. I personally would start with small annoyances. like causing him to stub his toe everytime he walks to the bathroom in the house. Piss on himself when he stands at your toilet. Give him diarreah everytime he is there. Stomach cramps. Attacking his physical body to a state of slight and moderate deterioration would allow you to slip into his mind more easily as the "wall" he builds up around him becomes weakened by the daily irritations. After about a week or so of different physical ailments I would go to him in his dreams and appear to him as something that he holds holy and sacred and tell him "the house is cursed" " you must leave before it gets you" or something like that. This will play in his mind probably only a slight bit but once the seed is in there it is your job to ensure its growth. The following week or weeks i would continue to escalate the physical attacks and move onto mental attacks and cause him to feel depression and sadness *NOT ANGER!!!* everytime he is in the house. I would work it so that he would feel full relief and more like himself as soon as he is a Kilometer away from the house. I would systematically employ these emotions in different degrees of severity over the course of the week(s) again and then once again go into his dreams and repeat the warning process. The next week I would spend working all the spells for physical and mental daily plus with daily dream visitations and projecting your spirit around him in a dark figure form to make "shadow people" race across the room to induce fear into him. Then after a full week of this which should have brought you a full cycle of the moon I would do the original spell to make him leave the house but instead I would word it in a way that he envisions all these bad things happening to him as a effect of being in your house and that his only option for survival is to depart from the house.

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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Greek_Male_Witch » Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:26 am

Symandinome you are right the second way is way more complex but it gave me one idea, what he is afraid is magic! He is afraid of it! Not because of me! He was always afraid of magic, even the romany women that curse you when you don't give them coins (they do that a lot), he is afraid as hell! so I thought to take an orange and put some nails on it, and put it somewhere so he can see it, I know he will not say a thing, but his mind will work the way I know it will, he will think I cursed him! LOL! Thats it, thanks everyone!
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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby connor)O( » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:29 am

Greek, I wouldn't suggest doing that. You don't want to give him a reason to be angry (more so than he already is). Personally I would perform a ritual to cloud his mind, basically to "magickally poison" him, if you get my meaning. This way it would sap his strength and his willpower, both these being the things that are stopping your spellwork. I would also suggest carrying a piece of mirror (broken or otherwise) to reflect his negativity. Blessings and good luck! )O(
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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Greek_Male_Witch » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:32 am

connor I'm not so afraid of him but you got a point there, he might even tell the authorities that, and even though they cannot arrest me, I will lose any credibility to them, yeah Greece is ages back in the subject of religion, so a witch is like a clown around here! :(
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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Symandinome » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:48 am

inducing anger is not the way to go. Anger is a strong emotion that would only enable his will to be stronger. Go with my first suggestion to you. It is going to work out better for you. Should you try for another way do not induce anger instead induce fear, anxiety, and pain. Those last three things cause someone to be more susceptible to influence.

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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Ula » Tue Jun 14, 2011 9:26 am

Greek do you live in a home or apartment? Can you just move out and leave him there? What if you turned off everything and stay at a friends for for a few weeks so he'll leave. I am at a loss. Here we can have even family evicted. I was going to say just physically toss him too but I thought that might cause some family or legal problems. I wish there was some one thing you could do to get him out.

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Re: Evil Uncle subject!

Postby Melindrose » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:00 am

Greek I understand that they are behind religion wise there but their laws should be close to ours if you tell them that you intend to throw him out and that you are afraid he will react violently and that their presence would be appreciated in the vicinity at the time you are going to do it.


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