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Church worried about my immortal soul....

Postby Wolf* » Fri Aug 05, 2005 1:32 pm

I'm in a bit of a rough spot here. I still go to church with my parents just to humor them, plus I like everyone there. It is a small congregation, as in only about 20 people. We are all very close, even the preacher and his wife are like grandparents to me. This will come into play later.

Okay, about a year ago, maybe a bit less, after I told my parents I was an occultist, the got really worried and started to talking to everone about it.

This is where the shit hits the fan. I took a trip across straight with the preachers wife. 10 hour drive, I get bored. So I bring my little note book that I draw and write poems in...and this includes my really depressing poems...and some anti-christian poems I wrote when I got sick of being preached to by my parents. (yes I realize it was thoughtless to carry that book with me under those circumstances, and I messed up and forgot it)

Well, here we are 3 months later...the preachers daughter, a grown women with a 21 year old son, who is a good friend on mine, found the book, and read it because she was trying to figure out who's it was. She found my name and didn't think to link it to me because of my church attendence and such. Then after asking her son if it belonged to any friends of his, he said no, then said it coud be mine, then it clicked.

So now all I'm hearing is, "I'm here if you need to talk."
Like I said, I've known these people all my life and I love them deeply, but I don't know how to react to this. I just keep saying, "alright, I will, but don't worry, I'm fine." Which I am, but not in their eyes. I know they are only doing it out of concern, but its starting to get on my nerves and its not getting any better.

Any thoughts or suggestions? :?
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Postby moonwitch* » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:19 pm

Well just keep being your normal self.... eventually they will see you are happy and healthy ...and maybe.. they will get the idea that you don't need them in that way and stop asking for help.
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Postby _Snow_Falcon_ » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:23 pm

You could try to tech them, show them that not everything that isn't christian is "evil". They might be open minded to it.
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Postby Wolf* » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:36 pm

You could try to tech them, show them that not everything that isn't christian is "evil". They might be open minded to it.
Unfortunatley, in a true christians eyes, anything non-christian is evil...
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Postby _Snow_Falcon_ » Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:41 pm

Oh so we're talking about a my way or the highway christian fanatics? Well can't help ya there. I had a simliar problem, but I wasn't as close to them so we just stopped hanging out.
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Postby hedge* » Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:00 pm

I'm with moonwitch on this one. Just carry on being your normal self. These people love and care about you and will naturally worry about you, especially after finding your book with all your artistic feelings expressed in them. They will realise that they are just expressions of your feelings and nothing harmless, they have to say to you that if you wanna talk they will be there for you 'cos that's the normal grown up thing to do.
Reassure them that you are fine and you appreciate that they are worried about you and if ever you need someone to talk to you will turn to them. But apart from that, just be you ( they allready love you for that )


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Postby Wolf* » Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:54 pm

So just continue as I've been doing? *sigh* Alright, apparently there is nothing else I can do :?
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Postby Leo*Moon » Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:50 am

Snow Falcon,
It's not always a good idea to try and prove or defend your religion. Especially with certain christians because no matter what you say you're just making it worse. I've seen friends try to take this route, thinking that they will do some good, when really some people aren't interested in what you're trying to say, they just want to paint you as a freak. In this case, it's better not to say much because these are her close friends and defending paganism would really rock the boat. This doesn't mean that christians are stupid or should be treated with any less respect, it just means that you should know when to speak and when not to in certain situations.

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The fool thinks himself to be wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool. ~Shakespeare
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Postby Wolf* » Sat Aug 06, 2005 2:49 am

In this case, it's better not to say much because these are her close friends and defending paganism would really rock the boat.
*cough* um....I'm a he, not a her....

But you are right. I try to avoid the subject of religion when I'm around my school friends whenever possible. But after everything thats happened, and me living in a small "everybody knows everybody" town....pretty much everybody knows by now.....and yes, it does indeed suck..... :?
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Postby hedge* » Sat Aug 06, 2005 6:24 am

So just continue as I've been doing? *sigh* Alright, apparently there is nothing else I can do :?
What do you think you can do Wolf?
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Postby Wolf* » Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:07 pm

So just continue as I've been doing? *sigh* Alright, apparently there is nothing else I can do :?
What do you think you can do Wolf?
Nothing but what I have been. That's why I came here for suggestions :? (I think I abuse that smilie too much)
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Postby lek » Mon Aug 22, 2005 5:40 pm

You could try to tech them, show them that not everything that isn't christian is "evil". They might be open minded to it.
Unfortunatley, in a true christians eyes, anything non-christian is evil...
newbie stepping in here....careful where I step, don't want to step on any toes... :lol:

But, your remark interested me. As I said in my first thread, I am Christain and I'm here looking for some candid info on Wicca. I have a couple online friends who are Wicca, and frankly I didn't even know they were Wicca for the longest time, we just talked about everything besides religion for the longest time....

Any way, I don't think a 'true' Christain would be jugemental. OR, should be judgemental at least....if they following the scripture at all, that whole 'judge not, lest you be judged' looms pretty large. :lol:

That said, most Christains do judge, so I see where you're coming from. It's sad, and it's also what turned me off to local churches. Christains can be pretty snobby and self righteous, but advice from a Christain (I'm probably not what most would consider a 'good' Christain though, I ask too many questions) is this, let them know you appreciate their concern, but that it really is not their concern. Tell them you're glad they're there if you need them, but for now, just to let you be.

Hope that helps a bit....

I had to offer something, you guys are being so nice about giving me the info I'm looking for. :wink:
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Postby [scifichick] » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:47 am

I agree with Lek... In a perfect world, we should all be non-judgmental and just get along. To be honest, I don't think religion should be discussed :? Just my opinion. I think it's too personal to many people, and then people get emotional, start proving their way is better, and it all goes to mayhem.
I think to people that you don't really care about and ask you about religion, you can say that you appreciate their concern and will turn to them if you come across any difficulties in life.
And then to people that you actually care about/are close to you, you can say that you were just going through some tough times when you wrote that poetry and that's why it overly dark. For some reason I think you are fairly young Wolf, I don't know why. Everyone goes through a self-discovery faze. That was yours. And that now through a lot of thinking you came to a happy medium. You appreciate their concern and are touched that they care and would definitely turn for their advice next time.
The thing is, the people that don't care, they are just being nosy and you should turn them down politely. And people that do care hopefully have your best interests in mind. And just remember that everything that happens, happens for the best. I am sure something good will come out of this.
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Only in silence the word,/ only in dark the light,/ only in dying life:/ bright the hawk's flight/ on the empty sky. --Le Guin
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