hey everyone its me again! i love thins place but anyways on to what i posted this for.
ok i was wondering if anyone had a tachnique, ritual or anything that would help me remember the dreams i have had i dont know why but i hate waking up not knowing what i had dreamed about or only have fragments of one that i can remember
thanks
Aubrey Rose
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There are a few things you can try, Aubrey Rose. The first is just the "simple" technique that I was taught in an online course I took (it was more about the analysis of dreams and inner desires: how the two were working together)... anyway, the first step was to get to a point to remember the dreams.
Step one was to teach yourself to not move at all when you first wake. (This is difficult). Once I did this (and I was only able to do it about twice,) you do enter into your morning via a different stream of consciousness where remembering details of your dreams is much easier and clearer. (It had said that it was the movement of your body which jarred you from your world of dreams into your conscious world). If this works for you, great. I'd then suggest keeping a tape recorder near your bed so you can recite what you remember when you first wake up and you don't have to worry about getting a pen and pad to jot it all down.
There was more they suggested beyond the first technique, it was a chant which was said to open your mind's ability to recall dream details- however I've loaned my book out and don't remember what the chant was. Well, if you're interested in trying this, here is a link to the page that has the available courses (you have to enroll and then wait for the online e-mail course to begin). The site itself is a little odd, but it does offer some great courses. (Just beware the spelling & gramatical errors). Mysticweb is the name of the site if you want to check it out. (Click the link).
Hope that helped!
~Sweet Dreams~
Step one was to teach yourself to not move at all when you first wake. (This is difficult). Once I did this (and I was only able to do it about twice,) you do enter into your morning via a different stream of consciousness where remembering details of your dreams is much easier and clearer. (It had said that it was the movement of your body which jarred you from your world of dreams into your conscious world). If this works for you, great. I'd then suggest keeping a tape recorder near your bed so you can recite what you remember when you first wake up and you don't have to worry about getting a pen and pad to jot it all down.
There was more they suggested beyond the first technique, it was a chant which was said to open your mind's ability to recall dream details- however I've loaned my book out and don't remember what the chant was. Well, if you're interested in trying this, here is a link to the page that has the available courses (you have to enroll and then wait for the online e-mail course to begin). The site itself is a little odd, but it does offer some great courses. (Just beware the spelling & gramatical errors). Mysticweb is the name of the site if you want to check it out. (Click the link).
Hope that helped!
~Sweet Dreams~
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Oh, and I believe they teach these sleep techniques in both the 'searching within' course and the 'astral travel' course.
-A tip though, if you want to try more than one course at a time, you have to provide a different e-mail address (at least) for each.
-Also, you'll want to print or save these e-mail files as soon as you get them (or at least within the week)... they dissapear and can't be recalled unless you re-enroll and go through the whole thing again (-happened to me).
~BB~
-A tip though, if you want to try more than one course at a time, you have to provide a different e-mail address (at least) for each.
-Also, you'll want to print or save these e-mail files as soon as you get them (or at least within the week)... they dissapear and can't be recalled unless you re-enroll and go through the whole thing again (-happened to me).
~BB~
I have some techniques, they're nothing new but I'm stating them here
because they worked for me excellently. I studied dreams ages ago
as a school project and I worked through a very simple book, what
follows are the core techniques that stuck and worked well for me. In
fact my success was absolutely astounding.
0) Have the intention to learn to lucid dream eventually.
1a) Start keeping a dream journal. Yep, everyone says this and it works,
just do it religiously. If all you can remember is "I was on a subway
platform or something" and you can't even spell right or even write
legibly just write that one sentence down, you're done. Give this practice
a few weeks to start to get results, perhaps a little more than a month if
you're a woman (no offense meant, just suggesting this to make sure
you've gone through a full hormonal cycle before giving up after some
poor results). Your dream recall will improve drastically but maybe in
quantum leaps, don't worry about periods of poor results. I actually
recommend pen and paper over tape recorder, even if it's dark and you
can't see what you're writing.
1b) As you go to sleep say over and over in your mind, "I will remember
my dreams, I will remember my dreams". Sound dumb, it works, I don't
know why.
When you're at the point where you can write down 2-4 dreams on
waking (by 2-4 dreams I mean 2-4 major scene-plot changes, think of
them like TV shows) every morning:
2a) Think of some thing (article of clothing, famous person, non-real
creature, theme), anything at all, which appears a lot in your dreams.
Look for this thing in your dreams. That sounds kind of strange because
if you're not lucid dreaming already it's weird to try to do, but
none-the-less just have an idea to look for the thing to clue you in that
you're dreaming. Ability to fly is a dead give-away but too often can
seem perfectly normal to your dreaming self.
2b) If you have a nightmare, on waking, don't move, not an inch. Try to
re-enter the dream and face whatever it is as lucidly as possible. You
probably won't actually go back into the dream but only half back into it,
so instead you can imagine/pretend yourself in the dream resolving
whatever ever it is that made it a nightmare. (Fight the creature, look at
the scary thing calmly, talk to the scary thing and tell it not to mess with
you). This bit can be a little hard to do because usually we're scared to
go back asleep.
2c) Same as 2b but with dreams you wanted to finish but woke up too
soon; don't move and just pretend you're still dreaming and doing
whatever it was you wanted to continue doing. Both this and 2b can feel
a little 'cheap' as a lot of the time you're not really dreaming, just sort of
pretending and it's not as exciting. Trust me, this really boosts your
dream awareness and ability to lucid dream.
2d) Make yourself a recording of your own voice with a little monologue
that repeats for maybe twenty minutes along these lines:
"When I dream tonight, I will see <insert 'thing' from above> or maybe
<insert another 'thing'> or I may notice <something> and I will realize
that I'm dreaming."
Vary it up a bit, tailor it to your tastes etc. but just repeat this basic
message over and over. I think it's important that it's in your own voice.
As you go to sleep, play this tape to yourself.
When you start to have a few lucid dreams, some tips:
1) Initially, don't try hard to change things if it's not a nightmare, this will
usually wake you up and ruin the fun.
2) Becoming lucid in itself might wake you up quickly, how to prevent:
- relax, go with the flow
- look at stuff, look around, look at the details of everything, focus on
things
- again, strong imposition of will is likely to end the dream
3) Don't obsess on the fact that you're lucid dreaming, once you're lucid,
that's enough.
4) flying is tricky
and takes practice; your natural fear of heights won't
vanish just because you're aware you're dreaming, it takes time.
MOST IMPORTANT: give it time, use discipline, improvement will come in
bursts and like everything else dream work has peaks and valleys.
These simple techniques worked amazingly for me, I'm sure they'll work
for everyone, but of course everyone is different, tweak as you will.
T. Guy.
because they worked for me excellently. I studied dreams ages ago
as a school project and I worked through a very simple book, what
follows are the core techniques that stuck and worked well for me. In
fact my success was absolutely astounding.
0) Have the intention to learn to lucid dream eventually.
1a) Start keeping a dream journal. Yep, everyone says this and it works,
just do it religiously. If all you can remember is "I was on a subway
platform or something" and you can't even spell right or even write
legibly just write that one sentence down, you're done. Give this practice
a few weeks to start to get results, perhaps a little more than a month if
you're a woman (no offense meant, just suggesting this to make sure
you've gone through a full hormonal cycle before giving up after some
poor results). Your dream recall will improve drastically but maybe in
quantum leaps, don't worry about periods of poor results. I actually
recommend pen and paper over tape recorder, even if it's dark and you
can't see what you're writing.
1b) As you go to sleep say over and over in your mind, "I will remember
my dreams, I will remember my dreams". Sound dumb, it works, I don't
know why.
When you're at the point where you can write down 2-4 dreams on
waking (by 2-4 dreams I mean 2-4 major scene-plot changes, think of
them like TV shows) every morning:
2a) Think of some thing (article of clothing, famous person, non-real
creature, theme), anything at all, which appears a lot in your dreams.
Look for this thing in your dreams. That sounds kind of strange because
if you're not lucid dreaming already it's weird to try to do, but
none-the-less just have an idea to look for the thing to clue you in that
you're dreaming. Ability to fly is a dead give-away but too often can
seem perfectly normal to your dreaming self.
2b) If you have a nightmare, on waking, don't move, not an inch. Try to
re-enter the dream and face whatever it is as lucidly as possible. You
probably won't actually go back into the dream but only half back into it,
so instead you can imagine/pretend yourself in the dream resolving
whatever ever it is that made it a nightmare. (Fight the creature, look at
the scary thing calmly, talk to the scary thing and tell it not to mess with
you). This bit can be a little hard to do because usually we're scared to
go back asleep.
2c) Same as 2b but with dreams you wanted to finish but woke up too
soon; don't move and just pretend you're still dreaming and doing
whatever it was you wanted to continue doing. Both this and 2b can feel
a little 'cheap' as a lot of the time you're not really dreaming, just sort of
pretending and it's not as exciting. Trust me, this really boosts your
dream awareness and ability to lucid dream.
2d) Make yourself a recording of your own voice with a little monologue
that repeats for maybe twenty minutes along these lines:
"When I dream tonight, I will see <insert 'thing' from above> or maybe
<insert another 'thing'> or I may notice <something> and I will realize
that I'm dreaming."
Vary it up a bit, tailor it to your tastes etc. but just repeat this basic
message over and over. I think it's important that it's in your own voice.
As you go to sleep, play this tape to yourself.
When you start to have a few lucid dreams, some tips:
1) Initially, don't try hard to change things if it's not a nightmare, this will
usually wake you up and ruin the fun.
2) Becoming lucid in itself might wake you up quickly, how to prevent:
- relax, go with the flow
- look at stuff, look around, look at the details of everything, focus on
things
- again, strong imposition of will is likely to end the dream
3) Don't obsess on the fact that you're lucid dreaming, once you're lucid,
that's enough.
4) flying is tricky
and takes practice; your natural fear of heights won'tvanish just because you're aware you're dreaming, it takes time.
MOST IMPORTANT: give it time, use discipline, improvement will come in
bursts and like everything else dream work has peaks and valleys.
These simple techniques worked amazingly for me, I'm sure they'll work
for everyone, but of course everyone is different, tweak as you will.
T. Guy.
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Wow T. Guy, that was great- Thank you for sharing all those details! I'll definitely have to try that myself as well. (I have an awful time remembering my dreams- and when I do lately, they're all about cleaning or normal household/family chores... getting the mail, sending bills, doing laundry...) which is actually quite annoying when I know the reason I'm dreaming of these things and end up feeling tormented by them.
So, what do you suggest when there is absolutely no recollection of your dream at all? (Such as in my case.) Your first part of the lucid dream process (jotting down at least something from the dream into a dream journal) wouldn't work for me at this point. I actually wake up feeling completely blank. In fact I'm often completely confused when I wake up... who I am and even what I am are things I have to think about a lot of the time when that alarm first sqeeks at me each day.
Suggestions are welcome! Thanks~
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~BB~
So, what do you suggest when there is absolutely no recollection of your dream at all? (Such as in my case.) Your first part of the lucid dream process (jotting down at least something from the dream into a dream journal) wouldn't work for me at this point. I actually wake up feeling completely blank. In fact I'm often completely confused when I wake up... who I am and even what I am are things I have to think about a lot of the time when that alarm first sqeeks at me each day.
Suggestions are welcome! Thanks~
:28:
~BB~
Even when you're keeping a regular dream journal and have some...So, what do you suggest when there is absolutely no recollection of your dream at all? (Such as in my case.) Your first part of the lucid dream process (jotting down at least something from the dream into a dream journal) wouldn't work for me at this point. I actually wake up feeling completely blank. In fact I'm often completely confused when I wake up... who I am and even what I am are things I have to think about a lot of the time when that alarm first sqeeks at me each day.
Suggestions are welcome! Thanks~
:28:
~BB~
practice lucid dreaming you can still run into dry spells where you have
no recollection of your dreams on waking. This can be because of any
number of reasons and it happens to everyone.
What I can suggest on those days where you wake up 'blank' (happens to
me on occasion) is this: Pick up your journal and start to write something
like: 'this morning I have no recollection of my dreams whatsoever'.
That's it, there's your entry. Strangely I've often found that when I make
an entry like this, as I'm writing I'll realize that I'm mistaken and that I
do remember part of a dream. So I'll continue the entry somewhat like
this: "oh, wait I'm wrong, ... <the bits remembered>". Sometimes you
might remember your dreams during your morning routine after you've
already made a blank entry; in this case you might want to grab your
journal and scribble whatever comes to mind (if you have time).
It's hard to describe, but sometimes you completely remember your
dreams (or parts of them) and aren't aware of it, when you realize that
you do remember you may find it hard to believe that you initially
thought that you had no recollection. Sometimes though you simply have
to make an entry that says you don't recall anything.
I wouldn't even be too concerned if you go a week or two with blank
entries with maybe an occasional single sentence detail.
Another tip is that your entries don't have to be fluid, well metered prose.
They don't even have to make sense and can be in the wrong order.
Sometimes you'll start with bits and pieces like: "floating over some
grass ... there's someone from work eating french fries ... I'm on a beach
raking sand ..." and as you're writing you'll remember sequences which
fit in between what you've already written. Just write out details as they
occur to you, in whatever order. Don't be afraid to have your entries be
a disjoint illegible mess all in the wrong order and impossible to read
later. It's fine, there's no wrong way to keep a dream journal.
I hope this helps. Again, this takes time, and dream awareness waxes and wanes.
cheers,
T. Guy.
Just a quick post before I head off to the Doctors (oh the joys of being ill):
I find that I often remember my dreams more if I wake up at a time outside of my usual routine. If your body's locked into a routine, it'll 'wind-down' its dreaming as it reaches the time you normally wake, so you may not remember your dreams as vividly - If at all.
Try setting your alarm clock 10 minutes earlier, or use another alarm clock to wake you. Sounds like a strange solution, but it's worked for me in the past. I always remember what I was dreaming of if I'm disturbed in the night, or if I wake up outside of my usual (almost non-existent, I might add..) routine.
Been having some peculiar dreams lately, though. I was a superhero the other night
. Still, I can't complain.. Most of my dreams involve flying.. Something a lot of people seem to want to dream about!
Eep, almost late. Got to go, see you all later.
Elem
I find that I often remember my dreams more if I wake up at a time outside of my usual routine. If your body's locked into a routine, it'll 'wind-down' its dreaming as it reaches the time you normally wake, so you may not remember your dreams as vividly - If at all.
Try setting your alarm clock 10 minutes earlier, or use another alarm clock to wake you. Sounds like a strange solution, but it's worked for me in the past
. I always remember what I was dreaming of if I'm disturbed in the night, or if I wake up outside of my usual (almost non-existent, I might add..) routine.Been having some peculiar dreams lately, though. I was a superhero the other night
. Still, I can't complain.. Most of my dreams involve flying.. Something a lot of people seem to want to dream about!Eep, almost late. Got to go, see you all later.
Elem
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Elem- thanks for the suggestions, I am VERY ingrained in a routine, and now that you mention it I do tend to remember my dreams more often on the weekends (when I can sleep a bit more)- I had always attributed that to my being able to enter into my dreaming REM state again directly prior to waking, but your theory makes sense- I do notice that my body wakes me up at 3 am to let the dog out and then again at 5 when the alarm tells me to. 
Hmm, I might remember my dreams after all... and if they could be something other than cleaning, that'll make me even happier! :28:
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Thank you too, T. Guy- your advice sounds like it may help. (And if nothing else, I'll at least get into the habit of trying to remember something- maybe it'll get me to remember on a more regular level.)
The way you were writing out your dream detail examples reminded me of a dream that plagues me to this day, from my teen years. It was so important that I woke up in the middle of the night, jotted out of bed and grabbed a pen to write it down before it was lost-- I recall all of this very clearly-- "Sleep Stars" I had written on my hand in permanent marker...
Satisfied that I would now always remember this important detail for all of time, I went back to sleep-- only to wake the next morning and find that I not only have an imprint on my arm of the same thing, but that I have absolutely no clue whatsoever what the phrase "sleep stars" implies. *AKK!!* :28: (thought you might enjoy that story)
Thanks again guys, I'll give this a try and see what comes out.
~BB~
Hmm, I might remember my dreams after all... and if they could be something other than cleaning, that'll make me even happier! :28:
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Thank you too, T. Guy- your advice sounds like it may help. (And if nothing else, I'll at least get into the habit of trying to remember something- maybe it'll get me to remember on a more regular level.)
The way you were writing out your dream detail examples reminded me of a dream that plagues me to this day, from my teen years. It was so important that I woke up in the middle of the night, jotted out of bed and grabbed a pen to write it down before it was lost-- I recall all of this very clearly-- "Sleep Stars" I had written on my hand in permanent marker...
Satisfied that I would now always remember this important detail for all of time, I went back to sleep-- only to wake the next morning and find that I not only have an imprint on my arm of the same thing, but that I have absolutely no clue whatsoever what the phrase "sleep stars" implies. *AKK!!* :28: (thought you might enjoy that story)
Thanks again guys, I'll give this a try and see what comes out.
~BB~
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