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Spot a liar

Postby written_word » Fri May 12, 2006 5:29 am

Can anybody tell me a good way to tell if someone is lying to you. Even when this person looks me straight in the eyes i can't be sure.

They are a compulsive liar and i need to find the truth out about something that is extreamly important

Even when i trip them up on their own lies i still can't get the truth out of them, and they twist it back to make out that somehow its in my head and they never said that.

I need help and i need it fast, this is really very very urgent. I can't give any more detail i'm afraid. Please help.

Thank you and blessed be.

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Postby WolfWitch » Fri May 12, 2006 9:31 am

A caddle prod. It's like a stun baton but a little higher voltage. Be carefull though. Hit 'em wrong and they lose bladder/bowl control. Usually one or two taps'll get anything you want to know out of someone.

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Postby written_word » Fri May 12, 2006 9:57 am

Well if nothing else you have brightened up my day and put a smile on my face. So thank you

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Postby Draconis » Fri May 12, 2006 10:36 am

if i think someone is lying to me i usually see how they act around me and otehr people, eventually id actually ask them tell them to look me straight in the eyes (if they seem to not focus hold there ears) and ask them very slowly about it, i can usually tell if they are lying by the way there eyes move when asking, failing that, when you ask them hold one of their hands (preferable less dominant, so if thier right handed hold thier left hand, and vice-a-versa) this can lower defences, its also possible to tell quite alot from how they move there hand, people usually fidgit more if there lying
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Postby Moon_Stone » Fri May 12, 2006 3:41 pm

Good suggestion, Draconis. (But I do love the cattle prod idea too, WW) :wink:

My advice? Trust your instincts. If you think this person is lying to you, they probably are. I've heard all of the same things though, eye contact (if it's avoided, there is probably a lie taking place) or any strange body movements (they are subconsiously trying to look like they are telling the truth rather than actually doing so). Also watch out for excessive face-touching, rubbing eyes, touching the nose, etc.

Here's a snippet I found on the internet:
Timing is everything and can define the difference between the truth and a lie. When a person is telling the truth for example, his/her hands (and whatever body movement he/she does) will move at the same time when telling you something. When he/she is lying however, the body language will be off and will usually come shortly after he/she has told you the lie. This is because they have to think about acting natural, and this thinking causes them to be off key, not to mention they are not really telling you the truth.
Hope that helps a bit.

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Postby Draconis » Fri May 12, 2006 4:01 pm

if you want to practise telling when someone is lying watch a press conferance with Tony Blair, has all the signs, sweating (LOADS), uneasy movements etc.

Its also kinda funny
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Postby N.R. Naiacinaed » Fri May 12, 2006 5:22 pm

I agree with MoonStone. Trust your instincts. *nod* If you feel the person might be lying, they probably are...But I'm sure the other ways here could help, too.

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Postby [aphrodite] » Sat May 13, 2006 2:37 am

I know how you feel written_word I am always catching my soon to be ex-boyfriend out on lies and he too always manages to twist it to being my fault. The person is most likely lieing to you. body language is usually the key to telling if someone's lieing, however my fella seems to have got that down pretty good. I usually find out he's been lieing by his face and other people telling me. When I confront him it's my fault he lied and he goes mad at me coz I found out. So your not alone.




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Postby Ravenari » Mon May 22, 2006 11:51 pm

When you think someone is lying to you, it's best to trust your instincts, or if you have a good and strong relationship to deity and spirit guides - ask them. You can also seek further clarification with divination mediums like the pendulum, oracle cards or tarot cards.

Personally, it sounds like you already doubt the truth of this person. There is no one guaranteed way of telling if someone is lying. Even lie-detector tests fail. But our soul is generally able to pick these things up, and if we centre ourselves and listen to our own spirit, the answers are always there when we need them.

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Postby WolfWitch » Tue May 23, 2006 9:20 pm

I still say a cattle prod's the fastest way. Nothing get someone talking truthfull like a few thousand volts through their kidneys.

Seriously though, watch how they act normaly and then bounce that off how they acrt when you think they're lying. It may be subtle but humans always give themselves away. usually in the eyes but not always.

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Postby LaFiamma » Thu May 25, 2006 3:43 pm

like others said, trust your instincts.

but there are a lot of other subconcious indicators that may point to a liar:

for example, someone looking you in the eye- I mean a hard, unbroken stare. That's not natural. It IS natural to glance away every few seconds. everyone knows that if someone looks you in the eye they're teling you the truth, right? so very often that hard stare is an attempt to appear truthful.

touching their nose- it has somethign to do with the nerves in the nose, and blood vesses expanding under certain physiological circumstances which may cause the nose to become more sensitive and possibly a bit irritated or itchy...when your nose is itchy, what do you do? i did read this from a reliabe source unfortunately i cant remember where it was now.

telling far more detail than asked for or necessary. Let's say you suspect your significant other of cheating, and they've been away a day. You ask where theyve been, which are you more likely to believe?

"Honey, where have you been?"

"I went to the movies with my parents and then to the grocery store"

or

"Honey, where have you been?"

"I went to the movies with my parents, we went to the 120 show, the 110 show was sold out. Mom bought popcorn and dad fell asleep halfway through. Oh, did you know they remodeled the bathrooms at the multiplex? After that I went to the Safeway over on mainstreet, but they were out of Folgers coffee so I went over to the Krogers on Park ane. They had the right coffee and I picked up some chicken too by the way, oh and while I was there I ran into my friend Bill and his wife Susan. Bill was playing golf and they thought they'd stop there on the way home...."


Just a few things to think about.


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