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Eretik
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Empathy

Postby Eretik » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:00 pm

I have noticed an upsurge in topics relating to or involving empathy and empathic responses/stimuli. So I thought a discussion and dissemination of info. would perhaps be useful.I am currently hunting the web to find interesting links etc. I have some here which may encourage the empathic to find out more/learn how to harness 'the gift which feels like a curse'. I tried once to explain how to use empathy in situations,this involves projection of your emotions on to others - something empaths can learn to do and use for positive purpose. I failed. My communication skills in regard to my own practices are sadly lacking.Too much instinct and not enough logic,I feel,on my part.LOL. Anyway, I hope there will be some interest,I had more on this but noticed a lot of articles [ including crystalinks]source their empathy info. from the wikipedia article on it. Hence the wiki. article is a good starting point. I also had to wade through lots of psychic sites,where money is exchanged for info. etc. Bah....hrmfff.

have a look people, then add your experiences/comments/feedback.

one of the links is sourced from a 'dark' site[Sanguinarius] don't discard the info.because of this ,it's rather good.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy

http://members.aol.com/taos22/empathy.htm

http://www.psychicguild.com/articles_view.php?id=293

http://www.sanguinarius.org/articles/empathy.shtml

These sites discuss beginning to work with empathic projection,something many people don't seem to notice or consider is that the empath can send as well as recieve.

I will also contribute with my experiences,I have used projection of empathy in various situations,it is handy if you think about it,when violence looks likely, in medical emergencies etc. I also use multi -disciplinary techniques inc.body language/vocal harmonics etc. with projection.Does anyone else do this too?

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Postby Eretik » Fri Jun 22, 2007 6:08 pm

This is the artcle from psychic guild,I couldn't get the link to work for me.




Telepathy and Empathy: Getting Started

Telepathy and Empathy: Getting Started
Dale Power
03/09/05





Most of us have had some experiences with “knowing” what someone else was thinking or feeling. A good percentage of the time this is written off as taking things in context and guessing what comes next. The things that stand out though, are those that have nothing to support them, such as a sudden change in subject matter perhaps, or knowing when a person is simply lying to you.
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What I am going to discus breaks down into two main subjects, how telepathy works and a few basic methods to improve your overall ability in the area of mental communication.

To start with, it is important to understand that telepathy (transference of thought) and empathy (transference of emotions) are part of the same basic process. They often seem separate because of the different ways people handle the same basic internal information. Some people focus more on emotional content, others focus only on words and pictures, this creates an artificial differentiation between the two.

Both telepathy and empathy take place all the time. Hundreds or thousands of times per day, your subconscious mind collects information about what those around you and those important to you are thinking about, especially if they are thinking things about you! This is a normal part of every day life. The only thing that keeps us from knowing this is happening on a conscious level is a difference in the way our forebrains use language as apposed to the more “primitive” levels of mind that receives psychic information most clearly.

This means that we already have full telepathic and empathic abilities and that they work very well. The problem? As far as our conscious minds are concerned all of this information is in a different language!

So in order to improve telepathic and empathic skills it is important to learn to think in a slightly different way. In brief- you need to quite your mind and think in concepts. In ideas. When you get an idea you will want to try and except it without interpreting it immediately into words or mental images. This will help to keep your Imagination out of the loop. Nothing wrong with imagination on the whole, but we do want to keep it from distorting our telepathic and empathic information.

Now, this will help you to receive information more clearly, but what if you wish to send information to someone else?

The key to projective telepathy, or projective empathy, is a concept known as entrainment. This is a fancy way of saying that your brainwaves match those of the other person and you are both in the same mental state. The easiest way of achieving this state is just to sit quietly and focus on the person you are trying to send information to. Don’t try and start with a full blown message, just think about them, hold the idea, the “feel” of them in your mind.

After a bit you will feel a much closer connection to them. This is a good sign that you are getting in synch with your target person.

Once you have managed that you can send your message to them just by holding the idea in mind. At the same time you will be privy to what is going on in their subconscious mind.

Now that we have this basic information down, we can use it to come up with some techniques that will make our telepathic efforts more reliable!

Basic receptive telepathy/empathy:

You will wish to start by quieting your mind until there are no overt words or pictures. You don’t have to do this perfectly, it helps to keep your mind in a very clear state though, practice will help things to come more easily.

Then hold the idea of the person you wish to connect with in your mind. Try to hold the idea without using words or picturing the person. This will help to get you into a solid receptive mindset that won’t bring your imagination into play.

Pay attention to the ideas that come to you. To an extent you will find that very clear and powerful ideas are instantly translated by your conscious mind into words or pictures. Don’t let this fool you into thinking that this is the only valid information you can get. It is often more valuable to pick up raw emotional states and the general topics that a person is thinking about.

*Note: You are going to be picking up the information from the persons subconscious mind. This means that you can be getting very good and solid information from them and they would not acknowledge that this is what they are really thinking, their conscious mind may not even be aware of it. In a very real way this division between conscious and subconscious thought means that you may have more direct knowledge about them than they do!

Basic projective telepathy/empathy:

Begin by getting into synch with the person as above. Once there, make an extra effort to calm your mind, while holding the idea of your target person. This will help to “lead” their mental state. It gets them used to following your thoughts, entraining them to you, rather than just being in synch.

Now you simply pick the concept you wish to communicate to them. If you keep the idea simple and straight forward, they will resonate to it on a subconscious level. If you hold this long enough the concept will be passed in some form to their conscious mind.

*Note: This passes along information. It will not cause a person to act on it if they normally wouldn’t.

These steps may seem very simple to you. In some ways they are. They are also extremely powerful. Once the basic techniques are grasped and used you will find that you are able to use telepathy and empathic abilities at will, on a very effective level.

Please use these skills well, to help others and gain understanding of the world.




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Postby Sobek » Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:16 pm

i've never tried empathic projection, though i'll have to give it a try soon once i calm myself down.

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Postby Eretik » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:43 am

I have some ideas, I 've been spending time observing myself,my reactions etc. The material above mentions the 'white noise' effect of crowds, that would be I suppose[from my own experience] the babble effect,is that how any one else gets it? like hearing people when you are under water,distorted and woozy,with the odd coherent part word or part sentence?with interference noise in between? that can be sorted by an mp3 player,it keeps it out I find,quite well. The hard part is proximity,you can't avoid 'sensing' emotion,if the emotion is strong and the emotee is near you or in some cases[urghhhh] where queuing means they may touch you, does anyone else get that,the 'zap' effect, It feels like a tingle for me,that runs through me - and then the feelings manifest, I hate that. I am not a 'touchy' type of person because of that, I used to block by 'walling' where I'd think in a focused but 'loosely' constant way on no particular idea or pattern,weaving my thoughts continously,while physically moving to maximise my personal space [of course] These days I prefer to suffuse,that is prepare,before reaching some where busy,I will remember to create a feeling of 'wellbeing' in myself. When I have to queue,which I also try to avoid[prevention is easier,after all] I will give off that feeling,which filters through any emotional bleed nearby. I am aware,also, that I may be picking up symbiotically,from empaths who are in the crowd,after all, to emote strongly in a crowd,above the group babble,there is a high likelihood the emotee,is an unconscious empath themselves. I am working now, on,seeking the strongest emotees out and seeing if I can 'target' that suffusion,that is a small 'good deed' isn't it?It works to calm them and me too,with minimum waste of energies,after all it is an effort to sustain sheilds and defences,isn't it? I have a theory about sensory stimuli/deprivation, sound blocks sound [works well for me,I percieve clairaudiently mostly ] I wonder if sight blocks sight for those who percieve visually? would sunglasses/tinted lenses,block out crowd empathy well too? I am going to try it, just glasses and glasses and mp3 together, it's Summer now,so I won't look daft doing it. It would be great if one of you[ better if several people would give it a go,of any clairsentient type*,] who has strong visual skills could try this too, maybe a group experiment? I think the empaths out there have lots of talents and potential, healing is an empathic skill, your empathy should be developed so that you can reach that potential and for mental wellbeing too,it's horrible sometimes,empathy uncontrolled.

*some people are of a type,who when someone touches them or they handle an object,they percieve the person's mind or life or that objects connections and history[emotionally],this is a form of claisentience.Clairsentience includes clairvoyance [second sight] and clairaudience [inner voice or vibration] and several other types of psychic perception.

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Postby Deirdre » Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:43 pm

I really recognize the part about the feeling when someone touches you...
I also have times where i really don't want people to touch me, specially when my head is already overloading...

I am normally a really 'huggy' person with people i am close to... Physical contact is really important to me, i think also partly because it makes it easier to sense someones emotions clearly (for me at least)... Sometimes i just can not stand being touched, because it really gives me the feeling that i am overloading...

I am sorry if my post is a bit incoherent, but I am not really awake right now, since i have a infection in the lining of my stomach wall, i haven't been able to eat decently, and sleeping hasn't been going too well either... So maybe i can come up with a bit more useful post later ;)
* ~ * Deirdre * ~ *

Just waiting for my mind to catch up with me.

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Postby Elem » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:14 pm

Since i have a infection in the lining of my stomach wall, i haven't been able to eat decently, and sleeping hasn't been going too well either...
Hope you're okay! Will be thinking of you and hoping you get well soon. Are you on antibiotics or anything?

Sorry to take the topic off-subject guys! I do want to add something in, but I'm not quite sure what yet. It'll come to me soon, I'm sure :lol:.

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Postby Eretik » Sun Jun 24, 2007 7:50 am

Sorry to hear that too De,thinking of you.I hope you will all contribute, I 'm not looking for 'intellectual' commentary - experience and ideas,thoughts and feelings are good.Working with the empathy and developing it is the idea with this,I would like to see if between us all we can come up with a workable plan/pattern to help empaths get on their magickal way,so to speak.More and more empathic type people are appearing and they seem so lost and uncomfortable,I 'd like to help [ and learn,contact with others is good for learning as much as sharing]The articles I sourced are the best I could find so far,but they lack a coherent methodology and just give a few tips to get started. All stories/experiences and ideas/methods you empaths out there use -bring 'em here,please. I can only talk about my perception/experience, I 'd really welcome others ideas etc. too.Those who shield , could explain that,any other types of defence and all types of experience/perception is good.We can all be of help to each other.

Myst

Postby Myst » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:53 am

I've always been empathic, so it's something that I generally take for granted. I have it well under control, so I've never considered it a "curse". I don't formally shield-- it's just a matter of being in control of my own emotions, and knowing that the other emotions are coming from an outside source. I sense emotions like one would sense heat from a stove, or cold from a freezer. They radiate from a person, so I can feel their emotions as being external, without being overwhelmed by them. I try not to internalize foreign emotions too much. All that does is amplify their emotions, and I don't think it does me (or the other person) any good.

I actually do a lot of empathic projection. Some would say it's manipulative, and they're probably right, but I'd prefer to give someone comfort rather than amplify their sorrows. I honestly think the most important thing about empathy is just having control over your own emotions. If you can't deal with your own feelings, you won't be able to control your response to the foreign emotions, either.

There have been times that I failed to control my empathy. It usually happens when the other person is experienceing very intense emotions, like grief, and they cut right to my core. It hurts like hell, like being kicked in the stomach, but I couldn't block it if I tried. Even a place, like a funeral home, can contain enough residual emotion to overwhelm my defenses. But, for the most part, I consider empathy a blessing. I think I'd be lost without it. :wink:

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Postby Eretik » Mon Jun 25, 2007 2:21 am

'Even a place, like a funeral home, can contain enough residual emotion to overwhelm my defenses.'


I understand that, I have to attend the casualty unit with my son,often. I can't easily deal with that it can overwhelm too,but I have to go,so I focus out as much as I can. It dosen't help that the scent of blood is so strong there.Thanks for sharing Myst, I think that your post was just what we need here.


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