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[zstargazer]

Ahhh, this is one of those cases that I must agree to disagree.
Eachof your thoughts on the matter has their merits, and I respect your right to have ideas that are different from mine.

I maintain it is intent that controls karma.

However, surrounding one's self with light, expanding it to circle self, home, and family is a viable alternative, as are any of the suggestions made by the group here.

There are many means to an end.

[juliaki]

So intent (a ephemeral mental state) is strong enough to violate natural law? If so, then intent should be able to break any natural law....

Thus, if you jump off a building, you should be able to violate gravity by intent alone.

I'd be curious to see that, personally...

[Eretik]

I don't believe in karma.I believe will controls intent.I will to act.Actions have consequences,cause and effect, that's why Magick works.Makes sense to me.That is all I need.I believe in physical reality/laws of Physics too -so I'm not jumping off any building to test it.lol.Iposted at the same time as you Juliaki, I agree. If I can fly I'll take off from the ground.[I should clarify -I think, if you accept karma then it will manifest for you.That is my opinion,I know others believe differently.]

[zstargazer]

I don't believe in karma.I believe will controls intent.I will to act.Actions have consequences,cause and effect, that's why Magick works.Makes sense to me.That is all I need.I believe in physical reality/laws of Physics too -so I'm not jumping off any building to test it.lol.Iposted at the same time as you Juliaki, I agree. If I can fly I'll take off from the ground.[I should clarify -I think, if you accept karma then it will manifest for you.That is my opinion,I know others believe differently.]

Then what governs cause and effect? What determines if one recieves 10 fold return or no retribution at all? Is it Will that decides this? Our subconscious mind? What law decides what is good and what is evil, if not karmic law ?

Can Will (unlike karma) negate physical law? I don't think I implied such, but the analogy was funny, even if it was out of context to my statement.

Could you please expound on your idea of how the law of cause and effect operates? I find this very interesting and look forward to your discourse.

[Eretik]

I advise you to read up on Science, Physics in particular.I'd advise studying Mechanics thoroughly before attempting Quantum,though. That should answer your questions. Actions have consequences.Statement of scientific fact, there, not opinion or religious dogma.Good and evil are human concepts.People of all or no religious belief systems are capable of great good and/ or evil,it's not a religious matter but a moral one. State legislation decides what is and is not good or evil, permissable or punishable,there are huge variations between sovereign and state laws in a worldwide context.Why is that relevant?