Christian Wicca

[Dubh Barin]

having a christmas tree is a pagan tradition. A christmas tree decorated is the pagan celebration of the winter soltice, not jesus' birth. That is why I am confused and easter eggs, bunnies are a pagan celebration of spring and fertility, not jesus's death. Why do christians continue to do these rituals?

I guess it is because they are not educated in the pagan religions. If they were, they would be less against wiccan/pagan religous beliefs and would realize that they too, are enjoying and participating in pagan rituals and celebrations. No offense to anyone on the above comments, i am just venting my frustrations...

[Dancing_Moon_Child]

I guess it is because they are not educated in the pagan religions. If they were, they would be less against wiccan/pagan religous beliefs and would realize that they too, are enjoying and participating in pagan rituals and celebrations. No offense to anyone on the above comments, i am just venting my frustrations...

I happily point this out to any non-Pagans who questions my belief system. And the dyed eggs on the most solemn of Christian holidays.....I usually ask where in the Bible it states they were coloring eggs while Jesus was dying on the cross. And why, if scholars have decided that because of the position of the North Star in the sky that the Christ was probably born around May, do Christians celebrate Christmas in Dec. which is when Pagans celebrate Yule? I could go on and on. I live in the Bible Belt also so I can wreak havoc on an almost daily basis.
Peace and Love,
Dancing Moon Child

PS Did you know that the 3 wise men were Zoroastrians from Persia? Zoroastrians were astronomers who studied the heavens.

[dread_pirate_steele]

well i really never researched holidays- where they came from ect.. but i assumed that since they all are convienently celebrated on the day of christian events, its a christian thing.

[moonlit]

actually a lot of them did come from pegan religions. I think Christians basically said "well we want those days to be known as christian days" or something so they made hollidays around them...

and you know what sux?? its not like you could stay home from work or school just cuz there is a wiccan holliday on like a monday or something but holy cow if its a christian holliday or something then they get like a week off. That always ticks me off

[katrebelNY]

i happen to know about the following:

Christ was probably born around May

(he was born in april)because the only reason christians celebrate christmas is because the ancient christian government finally gave in and let them. you see, the catholics thought that christmasd was evil, but so many other christians were celebrating it, they gave in and finally adopted it as their holiday....also notice that in the christmad stories of when jesus was born, they dont mention anything about winter or cold or snow!!!

[Dubh Barin]

I lived in the bible belt also for a very long time, and I educated myself early on and into college I took a lot of history classes and yes, I new about the star gazers. I learned that in astromony class. Understanding our stars and moons, and planets help to understand our history better, as a lot of our history dealing with religous beliefs came from the stars and uneducated guesses.. I agree with dancing moon on this. We are in turn going to have some really serious changes in the universe around 2012 and 2042. I will be too old to care about 2042.

I am always paying attn to our sun, the earth and the stars as they will give off bad air to say in a slight way to let humans know the truth that some serious stuff is going down. If you have noticed on spaceweather.com that the sun spots have been huge and have screwed up the cosmos terribly.

I also look at nasa sometimes.. it is good to be educated as no one in the goverment is going to let you get it done for free, supression. Also, if we are a free country, then why isn't wiccan holidays allowed to take off days from work for celebration without getting punished for it, or wierd-oo looks, you know. That ticks me off big time.. some of these goverment peoples "should be taken out in the street and shot" - Garfield ...

I wish I was in New York City right now as many anarchists' are screwing with the GOP (Grand Ol' Party) Republicans so they make it harder for them to carry out there evil bussiness practices, and keeping the american society dumb..

"Save a TREE, REMOVE a BUSH" - bumpersticker

[Guest]

well im a christien and scince i was youn i love magic and todey i am learning about divination and other magic is it alright for me to cntinue my study inspite that im a catholic???

[dread_pirate_steele]

i suppose that would be up to you..

because any christian/catholic that you may ask would probablly say no.

[moonlit]

I think whatever religion feels right to you is right for you

I used to be baptist like my family but I wasn't really happy with it, oing around pretending like I'm so happy all the time and that I have not problems, talking about ppl behind there backs, and being snotty to ppl who "sinned all the time" was not for me. I dont like to play the game pretend with m religion, so I found a differant one..er.. it found me more like it, and I love it.. I actually feel like I have a religion that i fit into.

[JBRaven]

The reason Christans "took" pagan hoildays is because during the Inqusition (sp?) there were so many pagens who would not let go of thier beliefs they forced the "Christan" aspect into them for less resistance.

When ever I had to work I would always request full moons off and all hoildays if they asked I would say "Hey it is a religious thing" leave it at that becaues hey they rarely relize that I requested a full moon off.

[Obsidian_Earthchild]

Hello. I'm new to this site, and had planned on just meeting a few people and not "digging" into deep subjects. But it looks as tough the timing was correct now.
I am a Priestess, recently ordianed to perform "legal" wiccan cerimonies. I however, am not wiccan, but a witch. The two one would think go hand in hand, but this is not so. Do Hindu's not believe that Jesus of Nazereth was a God, but infact amoung many other. And Christians, do they not also believe the same man or God-man if you will, to be a God? Many religion's derive their faith from other religions. I practice magic, as do Wiccans. Wiccans however believe in many Gods and Goddesses. I am a CHristian, and do not believe in the many God's. I believe in one God and Guardians, or spirits. Although modern Christianism, does frown upon the use of magic. This is simply because they do not realise there is a difference between wiccans and witches. Infact the Bible itself talks about divination and spirits and guardians and all the stuff most witches believe.
I do hope this goes along with the topic and answers some questions.
Obsidian

[dread_pirate_steele]

Jesus was Gods son basically, he was sinless and he was just as powerful as God. He was part of the "trinity" -father, son, holy spirit. Not nessecarily God but an equal part of him. if that made any sense.

[willow_witch]

It sounds kinda contradictory (sp??) christain witches.
i am newish to the craft onli fully becoming Wiccan 2 years ago, but after the death of mi pa, i found that the christain way left alot to be answered for and found them wtihin Wicca..... im not dissin christains or nething, i attend a christain skool, but i think the core belife is different from the way it is practiced today by the ppl.

let me kno ur thoughts on this,again no disrecpet meant
*blesses be* sisters and brothers

~willow~

[willow_witch]

well im a christien and scince i was youn i love magic and todey i am learning about divination and other magic is it alright for me to cntinue my study inspite that im a catholic???

rune from a wiccan point, yes, from a catholic point no
it depnd on ur veiw on ur religions. But i woudl think ur alway welcome inot the wiccan world as we do not prosique ppl for having other belief the way sum do

*blesses be*

[Obsidian_Earthchild]

Granted, Christianity is being practiced differently now, and it changes all the time. Christianity must be the most diverse religion there is. Back in the 16th and 17th century...even into the 18th, Christians killed people who did not believe the same way they did. They burned witches and the famous crusades left many children orphanes, and many wives widows. When the very foundation the religion was set upon called believers to love those who were different. Feed your enemy, clothe them, give them something to drink. No where does it say to kill for no reason other then they believe differently.

But many religions have had there ups and downs. There were many extremists who ruined the face of that particular religion. But there were also people who brought it back up. Gandhi, Billy Grahm, etc....many famous people who really grasped the true meaning of their religion.

So what I'm trying to get at through all this is you can't look at someone who follows a particular religion, and say all of them are like that. You yourself must look deeper and look into what it is based on, where the foundation lies. There are good things in all religions, but you yourself must decide what is true. Sometimes two religions seem to coincide with very minute differences. I myself am a witch, but I also believe in the Bible. Maybe thats not making me a christian. But I do believe in the Trinity, Creation, and all the core beliefs. I think that magic is a gift God blesses some people with. Its not widely accepted amoung Christians simply because you have people blessed with the Craft and they obuse the privilage. Which, as I have stated before gives those people a bad face.
Obsidian