)O( Injured Goddesses )O(

[)O( Krystal Raven )O(]

Now of course, no Goddess can actually be harmed by mortals in a way that is eternal.... but as Christianity has proven, they are somewhat subject to the collective belief system of the world.

Here is a list of the Goddesses that are being falsely invoked by selfish psychotic witches in the name of self-service and Egotism. They have permanent altars at the site I mentioned in the Q&A section. Haven't our beloved Sacred Feminine Deities suffered enough without this also? If you feel compelled, say a special prayer or make a special blessing for one or all of the Goddesses you see on this list.

Thank You for supporting the Universal Energetic of the Divine Feminine.

Isis
Durga
Eve
Lakshmi
Diana
Gaia
Athena
Oshun
Sekhmet
Bast
Quan Yin
Pax
Demeter
Mary
Brigid
Ancient Egyptian Bird Goddess of the Nile
Nefertiti
Cleopatra
Hygea
Maiden/Mother/Queen/Crone Aspects of Womanhood
Venus
Aphrodite
Corn Woman

[Zili]

Nefertiti and Cleopatra weren't goddesses although considered to rank amongst them from time to time, just thought I'd clarify this. These were two great queens form Egypt's history.

[JBRaven]

While I believe you, I just have to point this out. Just because you think that these witches are crazed does not mean that they are. Take this as a lesson that the goddesses are teaching you. All can invoke thier name but only the true of heart will receive favor. But no matter what the Goddess loves first and most importantly, no matter the person.

[)O( Krystal Raven )O(]

While I believe you, I just have to point this out. Just because you think that these witches are crazed does not mean that they are. Take this as a lesson that the goddesses are teaching you. All can invoke thier name but only the true of heart will receive favor. But no matter what the Goddess loves first and most importantly, no matter the person.

My dear, I am really using all of my willpower to restrain myself from mentioning many, many misdeeds done and inspired by the women in question. The nature of your comment is exactly why I find it so important not to bring local public attention to this issue before the court rules that lies, deceit, and mischief have indeed been unquestionably afoot. Understand that I am not asking that these women be blocked from the favor of the Goddesses, merely mentioning that unevolved, negative, and otherwise impure intentions have been layed upon public altars in their names.

I believe it to be judgmental and a bit conceited to presume that I should be told to take this extremely sad and painful experience as a lesson. Why else do you think I waited over a year to speak about it to anyone, and even then, have completely left those in involvement alone? I have internally dealt with, pondered, learned from, and analyzed many aspects of this at great length. All I am asking is that others please put out POSITIVE, LOVING energy.

[)O( Krystal Raven )O(]

Nefertiti and Cleopatra weren't goddesses although considered to rank amongst them from time to time, just thought I'd clarify this. These were two great queens form Egypt's history.

You are correct. Mary, the Mother of Jesus, is not a conventional Goddess either, nor is Eve, the First Woman. Also, the Maiden/Mother/Queen/Crone aspects of Womanhood are on the list... and these are all there because the site I speak of honor these entities with their own altars and consider them Goddesses. Just to be perfectly clear.

[Ember Nightwolf]

I'm feeling a little confused. I wouldn't think any Goddess could be invoked against their will, so how does that work? I mean, do you think I'm wrong, have I misunderstood the post, or is it something else. Sorry, it just doesn't quite make sense. Or do you mean that the collective dismissal/wrong portrayal of the Goddesses caused by the Christian Church has injured and offended them? See, I think that, generally, a lot of them actually survived through stories and by calling them fairies (such as Aine, one of the Celtic Goddesses). Apologies for my confusion. Blessed Be, Ember Nightwolf

[JuniperBerry]

Yes, Ember Nightwolf, if you think the God/desses are just tools. Also: it's fine for an individual to be eclectic and call on the gods outside of their own traditions but when they see other eclectics doing it differently then themselves, then it's wrong. Hope that answers your question. blue_dozey

[)O( Krystal Raven )O(]

Yes, Ember Nightwolf, if you think the God/desses are just tools. Also: it's fine for an individual to be eclectic and call on the gods outside of their own traditions but when they see other eclectics doing it differently then themselves, then it's wrong. Hope that answers your question. blue_dozey

I disagree with this entirely. I find all sorts of Deity summoning appropriate, even if I don't agree with it at all, understand its reasoning, or appreciate its value in the same ways the other person does. You, Juniper, have such a spiteful, sarcastic, demeaning way of talking about me, my beliefs, and my opinions. I really don't appreciate it since you don't know me AND have no interest in getting to know me better.

The reason I have issue with what is happening at this "temple" is that these Goddesses have been summoned to a place of extreme Vanity, Ego, and Judgment. The Witches that built these altars do not actually humble themselves to honor the Goddesses... they suck in the energy and claim to be Goddesses themselves! If someone seems more powerful than them, they outcast that person and cut them off from anyone still attending if they can! They tell the original myths of the Goddesses on sunday services, and then pile on whatever political message they wish! They use images of Goddesses to generate cash! They pray to Goddesses for things that these Goddesses have no interest in!!! They make offerings that never reach anyone that matters!!! They do not allow men, they do not allow children, and yet... it is supposed to be for the Good of ALL........... I could go on but I get so upset about it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[JuniperBerry]

I'm a believer of Freyja within her born pantheon, a goddess who revels in her individuality and independence, and I'm annoyed that you have taken her into your own eclectic beliefs and see her as nothing more than an aspect of the Supreme and Divine Goddess. How is that different than you being annoyed at these people for taking goddesses you honor in your way and honoring them differently? Isn't that hypocritical?

I'm not sniping at your choice of beliefs...I'm sniping at the hypocricy.

[)O( Krystal Raven )O(]

I'm a believer of Freyja within her born pantheon, a goddess who revels in her individuality and independence, and I'm annoyed that you have taken her into your own eclectic beliefs and see her as nothing more than an aspect of the Supreme and Divine Goddess. How is that different than you being annoyed at these people for taking goddesses you honor in your way and honoring them differently? Isn't that hypocritical?

I do NOT believe that the supreme Goddess of any culture is "nothing more" than an aspect of an older culture. However, I do believe that the most Ancient Goddesses are part of each and every younger Goddess in some way. This gives me the ability to sense, appreciate, and call upon many many many energies that reach far beyond the limits of my primary ancient Egyptian focus. Isis was the name for many Goddesses from cultures around the world in ancient times, far before I threw my own two cents in.

As I said, I have personally experienced Freya in my own ways, and I honor Her as a unique manifestation of the Feminine Source of All Power, which in my beliefs, has a name and an identity. The way you keep going on sounds like, "I came out of my mother so she is me and I am nothing". That makes NO SENSE AT ALL. We are each our own unique vibration, woman or Goddess. Though I honor Freya and accept Her powerful existence, I do not worship Her as my Supreme Deity because I was not born unto Her. You of all people should understand that.

The thing is, these people are taking goddesses and HURTING OTHERS with their practice. I do not demand that others obey my definitions or leave. I do not collect money from others to pay my rent in exchange for a halfhearted blessing. This is an evil monotheistic type of practice and it INJURES the delicate balance of true Feminine Divinity!

[)O( Krystal Raven )O(]

If it is hypocritical of me to defend the sense of sacred that I find most important, then there is no way to practice majik at all without being self-contradictory.

[JuniperBerry]

I can see that your intentions are good in how you worship Freya, and maybe that's enough for her since you aren't heathen. Who am I to say, right? But I'm not saying you can't be of worth because you come from a mother and only the mother matters- I'm saying that's not her mother. Freya has a mother and father, attested to in the lore. ( I'm just going to go all literal on this and hopefully prove a point.) Did you know that before you decided she materialized from a feminine principle? Furthermore, she's a vanic deity- from earth- separate from some universal ideal of womanhood. If you want to understand her according to the ancient goddess principle, then shouldn't you have some grasp on her lineage? It's like you telling me my mother is some old woman in a nursing home, just because the woman is older and we're both human.

And I can respect why you feel passionately about the issue and I think your motives are pure. But would you like me calling out a battle cry against you just because I'm offended by your beliefs in Freya? I actually could, without being a hypocrit, but that's neither here nor there. Anyway, the gods are pretty strong, do you really believe they need us to heal them?

And I don't Not have an interest in getting to know you. I may not agree with you 90% of the time but I enjoy our discussions. They're much more stimulating than answering questions about whether someone has a unicorn soul trapped in a human body.

[Victoria Mnemosyne]

Sort of jumping in here...
Historically, many Gods and Goddesses were adapted through cultural diffusion. It was not uncommon, per se, for Greeks to pick up a Phrygian diety (not all at once of course, but through many years) and slowly that God or Goddess took on a unique and seperate identity in the context of the new culture. Therefore, while you can reasonably say that Demeter as a Greek goddess was adapted from the Phrygian Cebele, and note similarities and possible lineage through Gaia, Isis, whoever it may be was the original incarnation, each Goddess is distinct within her own pantheon and as such has a distinct lineage, personality and context in that culture and pantheon. It seems to me to be a modern tendency to lump them all under a generic "Lady" or "Divine Feminine" and all gods under a generic "Lord" or "Divine Male", and I feel that this tendency should be avoided.

I'm not attempting to take sides on your debate, but I was interested reading it because I feel it more than touches on this issue, and I felt compelled to offer my thoughts.

[Black_Tail]

So, at first this seemed really confusing, I've never heard or psycho-witches invoking the God/Goddess for selffish reasons and it actually working..
But as I kept reading it became a debate between if the Gods/Goddesses were aspects of one energy or complete individuals. I believe all Gods/Goddesses are part of the Universal Energy, manifested as Divine Masculine, Divine Feminine. In this way I don't feel awkward calling upon Gods/Goddesses outside my ethnicity (which I don't really know, despite my research). If I took all God/Goddesses as individuals, distinct and completely unconnected, I don't think I'd be able to talk to those I feel a connection to. I would feel terrible awkward for praying to Egyptian Goddesses when I am not that ethnicity. When it comes to religion, I take things metaphorically and find the Universal Energy expressed as Divine Masculine and Feminine works best for me.

[Victoria Mnemosyne]

I don't have a need for that because I dont see it being about ethnicity. I'm very connected to the Greek Goddess Persephone, but I'm not Greek. If you truly have an understanding of a God or Goddess' nature and personality, what they are like, what they approve of, etc. then there is no reason you wouldn't be able to relate to them or effectively worship them.