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do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby path of the shaman » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:15 pm

hi!,
have this question after i had used the wikipedia search engine to get info on the keltic war goddess morrigan. and learned that she has been identified with both Lamia and Lilith (see sources: glosses and glossaries). i feel there might be a connection. Morrigan is a queen of phantoms and sidhes. Lilith is the queen of the Lilim (succubi), raphaim (ghosts, phantoms, etc), and shedim ( kind of wilderness dwelling demon, djinn, or nature spirit). i think they might be the same or at least there might be a connection (i.e. sisters, mother/daughter, etc.) does anybody else see the connection? however this just my opinion. have a good day! :mrgreen:

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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby Lost_Demise » Wed Dec 15, 2010 8:08 pm

I don't think they are the same at all.. ^^;

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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby Ravencry » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:07 pm

They aren't the same. See, Morrigan is the Goddess of War. Lillith is simply a woman (From the Abrahamic beliefs) that wouldn't bow down to a man.

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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby path of the shaman » Thu Dec 30, 2010 11:17 pm

actually Lilith is related to an older summerian myth of Lilitu who was actually a hand of Inanna. she has been indentified with abtagigi a goddess of sacred sex and fertility also of mesopotamia . and was called Kalili.
Lilith was later degraded to the first wife of Adam. and demonized.
found in the book: encyclopedia of spirits by judika illes. :?

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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby Ravencry » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:02 pm

I didn't know that much. I have never researched her. I didn't even know that she was worshipped in Sumeria!

Innana was also demonized in the Bible.

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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby Asch » Fri Dec 31, 2010 3:48 pm

If you had breasts and power you were usually demonized in the bible! Lol. There are a few exceptions but not too many :)
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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby Ravencry » Fri Dec 31, 2010 6:52 pm

Yeah, agreed XD

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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby path of the shaman » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:20 pm

i agree too. :) yes i know about inanna; its sad. :(

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Re: do you think morrigan and lilith are one in the same?

Postby JBRaven » Sat Jan 01, 2011 8:52 pm

I also think that they are not related. I have worked a lot with Badb (part of the morrigan) and never once has lilith even been mentioned. My besty "CD" works a lot with a Lilith figure and what I know of the two they share nothing other than being female.


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