This thread is a unique one and off the topics discussed here. But i am sure it will be interesting. Let us collectively share, discusses the possible ways to unify and strengthen the voice against corruption, non-love, terrorism, violence, etc. Explore how to unify Unifying Light Workers and Peace Makers to bring peace to the world. Kindly participate, share discuss, come with creative thoughts.....
There is very urgent requirement of peace to this world. And we also know that there are millions of people who are seeking peace. The problem is that they are not unified in their approach. There are millions of beautiful souls on this earth who are mediators, healers and channels etc. Different ways, methods are employed to bring peace. I wonder what if all such positive forces unite together. No doubt Golden Age will not be far away, in that case...
This is not the time to think of individual path, religion or philology. This is the time of unification. Future religion is no-religion. Future religion is universalism. Let us try to unity different ways and methods into one unified approach to bring peace. This is an attempt to unity Light workers and peace makers with the idea of No religion, No boundaries, No sermons, No leaders, No membership. Just awareness of One humanity.
We cannot fight darkness directly from the physical plane. It is not practical and not possible also.
The significant problems we have cannot be solved at the same level of thinking with which we created them. Albert Einstein
So these problems can be solved only by spiritual means, there is no doubt about it. Then the next question is how? Here, are some thoughts...
Darkness exists at all levels, at the level of individual, family, nation and globally. Each of them has unique spiritual condition depending on how much Light they carry. More the Light, Lesser will be darkness; higher will be the spiritual condition; more the light, lesser the influence of darkness.Light is Love, Peace, Truth etc, and Darkness is non-love, violence, ignorance, everything built on the falsity etc. The solution is moving from Darkness to Light. The collective human consciousness has a specific spiritual condition. To improve the spiritual condition of an individual, the individual has to make efforts. To improve the spiritual condition of a family, the whole family has to choose, similarly, at the level of nation and global. Ultimately it begins from an individual.
Some intend for peace, and some indulge in violence. Because the energy created by these conflicting intentions cancels out each other, the net result is what we see in the world. That’s why peace makers have not succeeded completely yet, they are yet to reach the level of critical mass. If 100 people thinking about peace and 1000 people indulging in violence how can we see peace out there? It is always the score that matters.
If the humanity collectively chooses Light, no doubt immediately there will be LIGHT AGE, I am not exaggerating.
So dear friends the purpose of this thread is to gather all those beautiful souls who want to make some difference, without any tag of religion, beliefs system or a leader etc.
Unifying Light Workers and Peace Makers to heal the world
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[ShadowPhoenix]
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I hate to rain on your parade but how are a few individuals supposed to make a difference. I know that 'even a grain of rice can tip the scales of victory' but the power of darkness is extremely powerful...seductive, and while I do push for atonement of my past I also know that we cannot completely get rid of darkness as everything must be balanced...so what CAN we do to bring everything back into balance?
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One Walker
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Interesting topic. Personally, I believe Balance does not represent a sort of 50-50 equilibrium between the dark and the Light but that Light represents Balance and dark represents Unbalance. Light is a stabilizing factor and the dark destabilizes.
One Walker.
One Walker.
We have seen what Power does.
We have seen what Power costs.
One is never equal to the other.
We have seen what Power costs.
One is never equal to the other.
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narendra
dear frinds welcome to the discussion...
few thoughts
It is proved both from scientific and spiritual community that, our spiritual condition, our practices, thoughts, emotions etc, affect the world. We influence the world and also we are being influenced by the world as well. Both happen simultaneously. We are part of it and it’s a part of us. The intensity of influence on both the sides depends on the spiritual condition of an individual and the environment as well. This mutual influence brings us great responsibility, as our choice (spiritual condition, practises, thoughts emotions etc) affects, not only us but the world, people around us as well.
If there is mutual influence, then it implies that there is some protocol between world and us. I believe that world (creation) is a platform for us to experience. Although there is mutual influence, it is we who are experiencing the world, so the ball is in our court. We cannot fight darkness directly from the physical plane. The problems in this physical plane have their roots in the deeper realms. To deal with these problems we have to try from that level (say astral level). When we say higher realm, what is exactly that means. Physical is actually phi-che, is collective consciousness or collective psyche manifestation. So in order to handle the issues, we have to mentally reject the non-love, violence etc and intend for peace. The idea of this movement is to deal with these issues not directly, but from their roots. Strengthing the positivity colletively, intending peace, manifesting Love etc to heal and to transform.
I understand that it is not easy to wipe out thousands of years of negativity, collective pain and suffering. This takes long time and great effort. For everything taking first step ahead in that direction is very important.
How many of us think about the world and its problems, and how often think about it. The very act of thinking for change prompts that, the awakening is occurring. Definitely we cannot deny that. Yes, there is a voice, although it is in the background, we cannot deny it. Although there is terrorism, violence etc, more people want peace now. If there is a natural calamity, hundreds of people run to serve the affected. Natural calamities, terrorism, war etc, in a way united people together. Thousands of youngsters gathered overnight and lit candles, symbolically choosing peace, at Bombay. How many places we have seen gourp prayers, peace gathering etc. Media do not highlight the positive things around, it only sensationalizes only negativity. That’s why these things are not brought in to notice.
The purpose this thread is to strengthen this voice. Also explore the possible ways to unify such beautiful souls. I welcome everybody...please share your thoughts on this.
few thoughts
It is proved both from scientific and spiritual community that, our spiritual condition, our practices, thoughts, emotions etc, affect the world. We influence the world and also we are being influenced by the world as well. Both happen simultaneously. We are part of it and it’s a part of us. The intensity of influence on both the sides depends on the spiritual condition of an individual and the environment as well. This mutual influence brings us great responsibility, as our choice (spiritual condition, practises, thoughts emotions etc) affects, not only us but the world, people around us as well.
If there is mutual influence, then it implies that there is some protocol between world and us. I believe that world (creation) is a platform for us to experience. Although there is mutual influence, it is we who are experiencing the world, so the ball is in our court. We cannot fight darkness directly from the physical plane. The problems in this physical plane have their roots in the deeper realms. To deal with these problems we have to try from that level (say astral level). When we say higher realm, what is exactly that means. Physical is actually phi-che, is collective consciousness or collective psyche manifestation. So in order to handle the issues, we have to mentally reject the non-love, violence etc and intend for peace. The idea of this movement is to deal with these issues not directly, but from their roots. Strengthing the positivity colletively, intending peace, manifesting Love etc to heal and to transform.
I understand that it is not easy to wipe out thousands of years of negativity, collective pain and suffering. This takes long time and great effort. For everything taking first step ahead in that direction is very important.
How many of us think about the world and its problems, and how often think about it. The very act of thinking for change prompts that, the awakening is occurring. Definitely we cannot deny that. Yes, there is a voice, although it is in the background, we cannot deny it. Although there is terrorism, violence etc, more people want peace now. If there is a natural calamity, hundreds of people run to serve the affected. Natural calamities, terrorism, war etc, in a way united people together. Thousands of youngsters gathered overnight and lit candles, symbolically choosing peace, at Bombay. How many places we have seen gourp prayers, peace gathering etc. Media do not highlight the positive things around, it only sensationalizes only negativity. That’s why these things are not brought in to notice.
The purpose this thread is to strengthen this voice. Also explore the possible ways to unify such beautiful souls. I welcome everybody...please share your thoughts on this.
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One Walker
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I think I understand what you're saying, ShadowPhoenix, and I agree that every person on the planet has an equally great capacity for good or evil. The side they consistently choose to let control their actions determines the type of person they are. It all boils down to Free Will again. The dark has no power or control over anyone unless they let it. If people want to follow the path of The Light then all they need to do is just do it. Just do it. Completely and totally reject the dark and affirm themselves for The Light. All they need to be is strong and the way to gain that strength is to:
A) Embrace The Light. Elemental power. The Elements are a positive force and they are on your side.
B) Get absolutely and totally fed up with the negativity in their lives and demand of themselves a complete, total, and immediate change. Personal power. Completely reject the acceptance of all negativity in their lives.
The choice isn't really even the tough part. The tough part is being strong when the forces of darkness come to do battle with you. It is at those times that I remember things of the dark side serve no purpose but pain. There is no place in the physical or ethereal worlds for anger, hate, malice, greed, envy, jealousy, etc. These are all negative, destructive things that are totally unnecessary, not to mention illogical. I control my fear and temptation when facing a darkness by rededicating myself to The Elements and their absolute, immovable, and indestructible dedication to the positive. The Elements will never let you down if you can stand firmly with them. With that knowledge, any temptation simply dissipates and I am left laughing at the shallow, empty threats and lures of the darkness. All its sting is gone because I know it has no power over me.
And this plays into what Narendra says about "influence on both the sides depends on the spiritual condition of an individual and the environment as well." I mostly agree. The thing is, we cannot ethically force change upon people. People only change when they feel the need to. By that I mean it is a choice they make either consciously or subconsciously. For example: say you get hurt very badly in a relationship. Your reaction might be to never fully risk your heart in a relationship again. This reaction is a subconscious choice to change yourself.
Human nature as it stands right now instinctively distrusts group-power. Government bureaucracies and economically powerful bodies have brought humankind to the brink of disaster and quite possibly extinction. They are now trying to 'fix' the problem by throwing gobs of money at it. As this current economic crisis unfolds we are seeing masses of people on an individual basis awakening to the reality that the manner in which they are conducting their lives; what their priorities are; and what is really important; is changing. They are seeking new answers and new paths. Many of them are really only looking for a fix to their current problem but many are genuinely seeking to change their lives for the better. The most logical immediate step these people take is to look around for others who are/seem to be in a happy, stable condition and determine why that is. In that regard they are not looking at systems or specific religious paths and beliefs. They are looking at specific individuals.
This leads to direct one-on-one interaction between people and this, in my opinion, is the most powerful force and opportunity we have to effect positive change. Because of that I don't think a unified approach is necessary or perhaps even desirable. I say this because each individual is different and their perceptions are different. Therefore they will not, by definition, accept one unifying theory of belief. On the other hand the mediators, healers, diviners, seers, etc., are of a kind as well but although their paths may be different the end result of peace and true happiness will inevitably be the same.
Humanity is not, for that reason, of a kind. Our One Humanity is not defined by its Oneness in beliefs but by its diversity. The trappings of religions, sermons, memberships, etc., do not rest in their basic idea but in what humans have made them into. I have no problem with the fundamental concept of Christianity any more than that of Hindu, Wicca, Confucius, Pagan, Muslim, Taoist, or Buddhist because their core belief system is the same. They all promote total Peace and Love. Where we run in to trouble as humans is when we begin to say: "This is the one true way to peace and happiness. All other ways are false."
That is the true trapping of humankind and the real root of the problem because humans have the unique distinction of being able to not only simultaneously experience both the physical and ethereal worlds but also to affect them. We can act on both realms. Therefore we can effect change in both realms. Total and unconditional freedom. When we realize we can do so, and that we have Free Will, our awesome responsibilities become clear. What force shall we promote and nurture? Light or dark? We are the bridge between the realms and, perhaps, The Keepers of both. Many people believe humans exist for a purpose. I believe that purpose is to answer a question: "Can there be greatness without callousness?" That answer has been left to us to decide. Joy or Agony?
And it all starts with the choice of the individual. A person doing or believing what others tell them to rather than making the choice for themselves has no power or substance because they have just given away/surrendered all their personal freedom and Free Will. This is why it is unethical for Light workers to force change upon others but there is another reason not to do this. When a person is co-opted in this way they bring no additional energy or power to the Light because they have just dismissed any they had. You haven't gained a true ally, convert, or whatever else you choose to call them; you've gained nothing more than a tool to use and abuse, then throw away when it has served its purpose or is no longer needed. This is the way the dark works.
Just some thoughts...
Blessings to everyone!
One Walker.
A) Embrace The Light. Elemental power. The Elements are a positive force and they are on your side.
B) Get absolutely and totally fed up with the negativity in their lives and demand of themselves a complete, total, and immediate change. Personal power. Completely reject the acceptance of all negativity in their lives.
The choice isn't really even the tough part. The tough part is being strong when the forces of darkness come to do battle with you. It is at those times that I remember things of the dark side serve no purpose but pain. There is no place in the physical or ethereal worlds for anger, hate, malice, greed, envy, jealousy, etc. These are all negative, destructive things that are totally unnecessary, not to mention illogical. I control my fear and temptation when facing a darkness by rededicating myself to The Elements and their absolute, immovable, and indestructible dedication to the positive. The Elements will never let you down if you can stand firmly with them. With that knowledge, any temptation simply dissipates and I am left laughing at the shallow, empty threats and lures of the darkness. All its sting is gone because I know it has no power over me.
And this plays into what Narendra says about "influence on both the sides depends on the spiritual condition of an individual and the environment as well." I mostly agree. The thing is, we cannot ethically force change upon people. People only change when they feel the need to. By that I mean it is a choice they make either consciously or subconsciously. For example: say you get hurt very badly in a relationship. Your reaction might be to never fully risk your heart in a relationship again. This reaction is a subconscious choice to change yourself.
Human nature as it stands right now instinctively distrusts group-power. Government bureaucracies and economically powerful bodies have brought humankind to the brink of disaster and quite possibly extinction. They are now trying to 'fix' the problem by throwing gobs of money at it. As this current economic crisis unfolds we are seeing masses of people on an individual basis awakening to the reality that the manner in which they are conducting their lives; what their priorities are; and what is really important; is changing. They are seeking new answers and new paths. Many of them are really only looking for a fix to their current problem but many are genuinely seeking to change their lives for the better. The most logical immediate step these people take is to look around for others who are/seem to be in a happy, stable condition and determine why that is. In that regard they are not looking at systems or specific religious paths and beliefs. They are looking at specific individuals.
This leads to direct one-on-one interaction between people and this, in my opinion, is the most powerful force and opportunity we have to effect positive change. Because of that I don't think a unified approach is necessary or perhaps even desirable. I say this because each individual is different and their perceptions are different. Therefore they will not, by definition, accept one unifying theory of belief. On the other hand the mediators, healers, diviners, seers, etc., are of a kind as well but although their paths may be different the end result of peace and true happiness will inevitably be the same.
Humanity is not, for that reason, of a kind. Our One Humanity is not defined by its Oneness in beliefs but by its diversity. The trappings of religions, sermons, memberships, etc., do not rest in their basic idea but in what humans have made them into. I have no problem with the fundamental concept of Christianity any more than that of Hindu, Wicca, Confucius, Pagan, Muslim, Taoist, or Buddhist because their core belief system is the same. They all promote total Peace and Love. Where we run in to trouble as humans is when we begin to say: "This is the one true way to peace and happiness. All other ways are false."
That is the true trapping of humankind and the real root of the problem because humans have the unique distinction of being able to not only simultaneously experience both the physical and ethereal worlds but also to affect them. We can act on both realms. Therefore we can effect change in both realms. Total and unconditional freedom. When we realize we can do so, and that we have Free Will, our awesome responsibilities become clear. What force shall we promote and nurture? Light or dark? We are the bridge between the realms and, perhaps, The Keepers of both. Many people believe humans exist for a purpose. I believe that purpose is to answer a question: "Can there be greatness without callousness?" That answer has been left to us to decide. Joy or Agony?
And it all starts with the choice of the individual. A person doing or believing what others tell them to rather than making the choice for themselves has no power or substance because they have just given away/surrendered all their personal freedom and Free Will. This is why it is unethical for Light workers to force change upon others but there is another reason not to do this. When a person is co-opted in this way they bring no additional energy or power to the Light because they have just dismissed any they had. You haven't gained a true ally, convert, or whatever else you choose to call them; you've gained nothing more than a tool to use and abuse, then throw away when it has served its purpose or is no longer needed. This is the way the dark works.
Just some thoughts...
Blessings to everyone!
One Walker.
We have seen what Power does.
We have seen what Power costs.
One is never equal to the other.
We have seen what Power costs.
One is never equal to the other.
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Wand_of_Probity
I wonder if you know the 'Starfish' story...?
This is a bit ad-lib so go with me,,
Imagine if you might a beach....
A wonderfully clean peaceful beach...
Its very warm, humid, and its raining hard.
Its raining so hard that the individual raindrops are making little pits in the sand.. the noise is of a constant,
As your walking along the beach, up ahead of, as the waves gently lap against your feet, you see a child.
You watch for a moment not really paying attention to how the sun has broken through the clouds instantly warming the land,,
The child is frantically running around on the beach throwing things into the sea,, as you get closer you see that hundreds of starfish have come out of the sea. With the rain they did not go back with the tide, and now as the sun is returning the starfish will surley die.
With a greater understanding of life you smile to the child saying, "There are just too many, you'll never save them all" the child frantically continues..
This leaves you thinking, should I join in,, or do I just walk on by,,
"You can't make a difference" you say walking past.. As the child stops, you can almost sense the tiny hairs raising on the back of the childs neck,,
The child turns to you and looks into your eyes where for the very first time you see the reflection of the very energy of the cosmos, the very choir that you once belonged, and in a very familar almost angelic voice the child speaks, holding out to you a starfish,, "To this one,,, it makes a great difference,,," throwing it into the sea,,
Looking back on that time when you would have happily rolled up your sleeves and joined in, remember this, one single wish can save the day, one single smile can save a life,, one single child can remind you of who you really are..
Remember now,,
Who you truely are,,
Blessings to you.
Paul
This is a bit ad-lib so go with me,,
Imagine if you might a beach....
A wonderfully clean peaceful beach...
Its very warm, humid, and its raining hard.
Its raining so hard that the individual raindrops are making little pits in the sand.. the noise is of a constant,
As your walking along the beach, up ahead of, as the waves gently lap against your feet, you see a child.
You watch for a moment not really paying attention to how the sun has broken through the clouds instantly warming the land,,
The child is frantically running around on the beach throwing things into the sea,, as you get closer you see that hundreds of starfish have come out of the sea. With the rain they did not go back with the tide, and now as the sun is returning the starfish will surley die.
With a greater understanding of life you smile to the child saying, "There are just too many, you'll never save them all" the child frantically continues..
This leaves you thinking, should I join in,, or do I just walk on by,,
"You can't make a difference" you say walking past.. As the child stops, you can almost sense the tiny hairs raising on the back of the childs neck,,
The child turns to you and looks into your eyes where for the very first time you see the reflection of the very energy of the cosmos, the very choir that you once belonged, and in a very familar almost angelic voice the child speaks, holding out to you a starfish,, "To this one,,, it makes a great difference,,," throwing it into the sea,,
Looking back on that time when you would have happily rolled up your sleeves and joined in, remember this, one single wish can save the day, one single smile can save a life,, one single child can remind you of who you really are..
Remember now,,
Who you truely are,,
Blessings to you.
Paul
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