I'm a 'former' Christian, but I still respect the man Jesus. It's funny, just today I came across the the concept of the two religions uniting into one(Christian Paganism). I'm very curious about this new sect.
Care to tell me more about it, or direct me to a site that can fill in the blanks?
Thanks . . .
Awkward Religion Issues
http://members.aol.com/RawnaMoon/intro.html is a site dedicated to Christian witches and Christian witchcraft.
Mostly what I do, I do because it feels right and fulfilling. I understand my faith, the way I take it, and I believe that there are as many faiths as there are people. Rawna Moon (who runs that site) is of a similar mind and most of the information there helps Christian integrate witchcraft and a male/female Godhead into their faith or interested Pagans into incorporating Jesus.
Mostly what I do, I do because it feels right and fulfilling. I understand my faith, the way I take it, and I believe that there are as many faiths as there are people. Rawna Moon (who runs that site) is of a similar mind and most of the information there helps Christian integrate witchcraft and a male/female Godhead into their faith or interested Pagans into incorporating Jesus.
Come, heart, where hill is heaped upon hill:
For there the mystical brotherhood
Of sun and moon and hollow and wood
And river and stream work out their will.
W. B. Yeats, Into the Twilight
For there the mystical brotherhood
Of sun and moon and hollow and wood
And river and stream work out their will.
W. B. Yeats, Into the Twilight
And here is a link to a site that will tell you why it is pointless to believe in Christianity, lol.
http://www.truthbeknown.com/index101.htm
This is a great site really. Acharya (uh-char-eee-uh), the webmaster, is a friend of mine. I wrote to her to tell her about Adsense and how it could make her money for her site if she used it. I didn't realize when I wrote her that she is kind of famous. She is a well-known author in the anti-Christian circles. If you like to read about religous/spiritual matters, check out her site, starting with this article: http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm
That will explain how Jesus came to be the "god" that we know him as and why he basically never really existed. Not to say you shouldn't worship him. That is certainly a personal choice. But I do wish Christians would educate themselves about what exactly they are worshipping. Jesus as an energy is real and is very old, but as an actual person it is unlikely that he ever existed at all.
Well, I was going to ramble some more, but I'm in the middle of something right now, plus Oprah is on. lol. Later gators!
http://www.truthbeknown.com/index101.htm
This is a great site really. Acharya (uh-char-eee-uh), the webmaster, is a friend of mine. I wrote to her to tell her about Adsense and how it could make her money for her site if she used it. I didn't realize when I wrote her that she is kind of famous. She is a well-known author in the anti-Christian circles. If you like to read about religous/spiritual matters, check out her site, starting with this article: http://www.truthbeknown.com/origins.htm
That will explain how Jesus came to be the "god" that we know him as and why he basically never really existed. Not to say you shouldn't worship him. That is certainly a personal choice. But I do wish Christians would educate themselves about what exactly they are worshipping. Jesus as an energy is real and is very old, but as an actual person it is unlikely that he ever existed at all.
Well, I was going to ramble some more, but I'm in the middle of something right now, plus Oprah is on. lol. Later gators!
Guess what Oprah is about today? Here is the blurb from the website:
Every single day in the United States, at least three women are murdered by the men in their lives. How does an ordinary husband and father become a brutal killer? And what are the signs? To try and get some answers, Oprah traveled to a North Carolina maximum-security prison to meet a former church pastor, behind bars for the rest of his life.
High school sweethearts Aaron and Naomi were married for 24 years and together they raised three children. Naomi worked full time as a nurse and Aaron was a devoted church pastor. On January 27, 2003, Naomi's dead body was found partially clothed in the back seat of her car. She was only a mile from her home. Crime experts believe she was beaten into unconsciousness with a marble rolling pin, then driven to a deserted road, beaten again, this time with a rock. She was then believed to have been strangled with a seat belt and left for dead. Police think Naomi fought back until her last breath.
But when the killer was revealed, nobody could believe it. Aaron confessed to the brutal murder of his wife.
Yep, the Christian pastor killed his wife. Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the Bible encourages men to treat women as inferior? He apparently killed her, he said, because she tried to "fight back". Of course, a good submissive woman would never fight back with her husband. She would just lay down and take her well-deserved beating, right? Well, she may have lived had she done that, but who knows? Not that this Christian guy is any worse than all the other mostly "Christian" males that murder and beat their wives each day in the U.S. Our men are being taught to believe that they have the right to control us. The Christian religion gives them that right. Some of them obviously take it way too far.
Well, I'm done again. The commercial is over.
Blessings,
Every single day in the United States, at least three women are murdered by the men in their lives. How does an ordinary husband and father become a brutal killer? And what are the signs? To try and get some answers, Oprah traveled to a North Carolina maximum-security prison to meet a former church pastor, behind bars for the rest of his life.
High school sweethearts Aaron and Naomi were married for 24 years and together they raised three children. Naomi worked full time as a nurse and Aaron was a devoted church pastor. On January 27, 2003, Naomi's dead body was found partially clothed in the back seat of her car. She was only a mile from her home. Crime experts believe she was beaten into unconsciousness with a marble rolling pin, then driven to a deserted road, beaten again, this time with a rock. She was then believed to have been strangled with a seat belt and left for dead. Police think Naomi fought back until her last breath.
But when the killer was revealed, nobody could believe it. Aaron confessed to the brutal murder of his wife.
Yep, the Christian pastor killed his wife. Gee, I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that the Bible encourages men to treat women as inferior? He apparently killed her, he said, because she tried to "fight back". Of course, a good submissive woman would never fight back with her husband. She would just lay down and take her well-deserved beating, right? Well, she may have lived had she done that, but who knows? Not that this Christian guy is any worse than all the other mostly "Christian" males that murder and beat their wives each day in the U.S. Our men are being taught to believe that they have the right to control us. The Christian religion gives them that right. Some of them obviously take it way too far.
Well, I'm done again. The commercial is over.
Blessings,
Confusing
Oh dear, real sorry to put a spanner in the works but in Britain I think, Christianity, Catholicism and Paganinsm do not ever join together.
Paganism was virtually wiped out by the Church of Christianity which did not understand its true meaning and following. They eventually converted people to believing in Christianity by killing and robbing Pagans and making others believe that paganism was connect to devil worshipping.
Witches were women who had requested the assistance of the devil to allow them to have the same powers as men. They didn't like this so they decided to burn all witches at the stake, drown them and do other atrocities to them.
Paganism was virtually wiped out by the Church of Christianity which did not understand its true meaning and following. They eventually converted people to believing in Christianity by killing and robbing Pagans and making others believe that paganism was connect to devil worshipping.
Witches were women who had requested the assistance of the devil to allow them to have the same powers as men. They didn't like this so they decided to burn all witches at the stake, drown them and do other atrocities to them.
Bubbles float because they are light and happy; don't let life wear you down!
actually, you may want to watch the History channel sometime. It is very evident that Jesus as a man, did exist and was a spiritual leader.Jesus as an energy is real and is very old, but as an actual person it is unlikely that he ever existed at all.
---Wolf---
"And a godlike man--a man who is pure force--inaccessible to any compromise--is called a hero."
"And a godlike man--a man who is pure force--inaccessible to any compromise--is called a hero."
I actually did catch that program on the History channel though, if it's the same one you're talking about. I've seen several of them about Christianity. People can find proof for whatever they want to find proof for.
Even if Jesus the man did exist (and he might have), imagine what we would think today if a crazy man went around telling everyone that he was the "Son of God." We would think he was insane. Actually, I'm sure there are many people right now in this world who think they are related to God, but we just lock them up in mental hospitals or leave them on the streets to live and die. Basically, no one cares and everyone thinks people like that are insane. It's sad, because I'm sure they are all wishing we would make a religion based on their teachings.
Even if Jesus the man did exist (and he might have), imagine what we would think today if a crazy man went around telling everyone that he was the "Son of God." We would think he was insane. Actually, I'm sure there are many people right now in this world who think they are related to God, but we just lock them up in mental hospitals or leave them on the streets to live and die. Basically, no one cares and everyone thinks people like that are insane. It's sad, because I'm sure they are all wishing we would make a religion based on their teachings.
Are there witches who don't believe that the witch trials happened? I thought only Christians were naive enough to argue that point. Maybe that isn't what you are saying though. The people killed in the witch trials weren't actually witches (the vast majority of them). They were regular people, usually single women, and they were murdered for really stupid reasons. Actually, for anyone interested, I added a new Witch Trials section to the website a couple of months ago. Here is a link to it:
http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/s ... trials.htm
My husband and I visited Salem, Mass. and took a lot of pictures, so the pictures and descriptions are there. Some of the stories are really sad and tragic. Well, actually most of them are. You should have seen the dungeons (jail) these people had to stay in. Many of them died from being in jail just from the horrible conditions (no heat or food for many of them.) It's enough to make me cry when I read about it, and I rarely cry about anything besides a sad movie. I have pictures of the recreated dungeons in Salem on the link above.
http://www.everythingunderthemoon.net/s ... trials.htm
My husband and I visited Salem, Mass. and took a lot of pictures, so the pictures and descriptions are there. Some of the stories are really sad and tragic. Well, actually most of them are. You should have seen the dungeons (jail) these people had to stay in. Many of them died from being in jail just from the horrible conditions (no heat or food for many of them.) It's enough to make me cry when I read about it, and I rarely cry about anything besides a sad movie. I have pictures of the recreated dungeons in Salem on the link above.
well doh
I was being sarcastic about it. My point was that the idea of Jesus being real is about as believable as the witches in Salem. If you want to believe they existed you will. I am well aware of the fact that in Salem they were ordinary everyday people and that the real battle was over land ownership.
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It's well known that King James ordered the translations of the bible "edited" for the public masses. There are ceartain "divine mysteries" that the "commoner" should never know. This is why the Catholic church (and this is partial fact partial speculation.) has sealed away in their library, ceartain dead sea scrolls and other scriptures from the appostles and several other biblical contempararies. Growing up in a catholic highschool (yes, I did a bulk of my growing up in that place.) really scared me as to how much information they wish to supress and how many questions I had that were simply "not aknowlaged". I think it is in part why I am an avid explorer of any feild I find of interest. I like to find my own answers in life and not have some one tell me what I'll decide to think.Ah yes, okay, that makes alot more sense. The bible itself is so old that men have no doubt changed it to suit their will. So following the word of christ and not the bible sounds like much more plausible thing to do anyway, in my humble opinion of course. I believe Jesus himself was like the Buddah, an enlightened individual, but man twisted his teachings whenever it suited them. Anyone who would say he didn't exist period is only showing their ignrance.
Anyway, as I said, I wasn't trying anger anyone, just get my question answered, and you two did just that, and even enlightened me a little on the subject.
As Scott Cunningham wrote. "Any and all religeons are the truth , to those whom believe and practice them."BlackenedRose Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:17 am
Course it is. Religion is about faith. That's what religion is, believing in something you can't prove.
One of the greatest peices of advice I have ever been given or faith is my sig line. My best friend in the world, Terry Atwood said it when I first started exploring non christian based faiths. Read it and take of it as you will.
To all a God/Goddess/Whatever Bless thee.
WW.
The greatest advice I was ever given: It matters not what you believe. Only that you believe it wholeheartedly.
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